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Re:Inside Andy Rubin's Quest to Create an OS for Everything by throwaway47861 on Friday July 28, 2017 @06:11PM (#14878017)
I am surprised nobody mentioned this guy's failure to deliver the Essential Phone in time (whether it's essential is a huge argument point by itself).

Cynically speaking, to me that's a paid article to keep hype around the persona since he's losing a lot of PR points lately.

I am not taking such a "visionary" seriously unless he manages to ship the one consumer-level product he promised.

And yes, many of his ideas are COMMON SENSE, I can't for the life of me understand the praise.

Re:Inside Andy Rubin's Quest to Create an OS for Everything by Steko on Friday July 28, 2017 @10:52PM (#14879238)
> this guy's failure to deliver the Essential Phone in time

Hasn't been a good month for Essential. The phone he promised in June didn't ship in July, lost VP's of marketing and communication and today Google hired away his lead UX designer to fill the same role for Google Home.

Re:Inside Andy Rubin's Quest to Create an OS for Everything by throwaway47861 on Saturday July 29, 2017 @09:19AM (#14881084)
Exactly what I was also aiming at; such mass exodus events signal either (a) that Rubin hired a bunch of greedy freeloaders that leave after the first signs of struggle, or (b) he is a dictator who's not pleasant to work with.

Both of these aren't promising.

Re:Inside Andy Rubin's Quest to Create an OS for Everything by DAddYE on Friday July 28, 2017 @07:32PM (#14878434)
Can’t agree more. Also the “invention” of android is debatable to me. Wasn’t a rushed response to iOS?
Re:Inside Andy Rubin's Quest to Create an OS for Everything by dingo_bat on Friday July 28, 2017 @09:13PM (#14878935)
AFAIK Android was already under development but arrival of iPhone caused it to be completely modified before release.
Re:Inside Andy Rubin's Quest to Create an OS for Everything by cel1ne on Saturday July 29, 2017 @02:22AM (#14879837)
It was originally an OS for cameras. It's a pain to develop on. I believe they used an automated tool to convert a C-codebase to Java (judging from method name, usage of bit-fields instead of enums etc.)
Re:Inside Andy Rubin's Quest to Create an OS for Everything by flamedoge on Friday July 28, 2017 @06:34PM (#14878120)
I feel like a lot of those common sense ideas could still use streamlining to put in homes. Why can't I live like Rubin? Why should these devices be only for the rich? Hook up a hydrometer and switch and sell it to me as relative humidity aware fan controller.
Re:Inside Andy Rubin's Quest to Create an OS for Everything by civilitty on Friday July 28, 2017 @07:03PM (#14878277)
Nitpick: Hydrometers measure the specific gravity of liquids and are mostly used for beverages such as to calculate a liquid's sugar or alcohol contents.

You're thinking of hygrometers, which measure relative humidity using capacitive, resistive, or gravimetric methods.

Re:Inside Andy Rubin's Quest to Create an OS for Everything by throwaway47861 on Friday July 28, 2017 @06:58PM (#14878253)
I think the hyped euphemisms are carefully crafted to make the people feel important if they buy something. It's a very regular psychological technique in marketing.
Re:Inside Andy Rubin's Quest to Create an OS for Everything by j45 on Friday July 28, 2017 @09:45PM (#14879055)
Not sure a 1st generation device or creator can be judged like that.

New devices and manufacturers don't typically improve the 3rd or 4th generation.

Rushed devices are largely premature, unusuable, and still move things forward: iPhone 1, Galaxy Note 1..

When did quality, functionality, delivering on scale and time get better? iPhone 3-4, Galaxy Note 3-4, LG G3-G4, Samsung S3-S4, iPad 3-4, Nexus 4-5.

Hype aside, the first effort isn't something that should be undercut.

Re:Inside Andy Rubin's Quest to Create an OS for Everything by throwaway47861 on Saturday July 29, 2017 @09:17AM (#14881073)
I don't disagree.

What I am saying is that writing such articles is embarrassing and reads like a paid hype. Plus the guy really doesn't have much under his belt.

I and many other practical people dislike person cults. Especially such forced ones.

Re:Inside Andy Rubin's Quest to Create an OS for Everything by j45 on Thursday August 10, 2017 @06:00AM (#14978132)
The thing that has stood out to me about innovators, and innovation, is they live in a mindset of possibility, not doubt or skepticism.

Guys like Rubin have built something that touched a lot of people, and grew to be much larger than them. I think that's not really something I can look to anyone to credit, or discredit, than, say someone else who has done the same.

I'm not sure if everyone is the type to take an the article immediately as gospel, or trying to immediately debunk it as gospel.

Maybe Wired has been been in my life through a few internet generations. Wired once was a key way of bringing attention to corners of the internet that weren't always easy to locate.

Re:Inside Andy Rubin's Quest to Create an OS for Everything by 6stringmerc on Saturday July 29, 2017 @12:02AM (#14879406)
Moeller Air Car rings a bell...wonder if any of the SV pursuits got the memo...