AMD Ryzen 3 1300X and Ryzen 3 1200 CPU Review

Re:AMD Ryzen 3 1300X and Ryzen 3 1200 CPU Review by metalliqaz on Thursday July 27, 2017 @11:21AM (#14866116)

IMHO, the single-thread performance/dollar graph at the end of the article says it all. At this price range, I've found that workloads are still mostly single-threaded. The Intel parts are still the king with their decent clock rates and their deep pipelines. The Ryzen 3 1200 is a total dog.

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Re:AMD Ryzen 3 1300X and Ryzen 3 1200 CPU Review by old-gregg on Thursday July 27, 2017 @12:19PM (#14866701)

"Total dog" for being 7-13% slower-per-thread but offering twice as many cores? This is ridiculous. I am typing this on a i5 Mac with 2C/4T and the difference in using common office applications (browser, Excel, etc) vs 4C/8T i7 is _insane_. Just using newegg.com is borderline impossible with just a few tabs open unless you have 4 non-SMT threads.

Desktop computing is actually pretty good at utilizing many cores these days: the booting process, starting non-trivial applications, using full-disk encryption, running multiple tabs in a browser (or just having a browser open with a few tabs + something else), in all of these conditions 4c/4t CPU will provide tangible, perceivable difference. 2c/4t CPUs are obsolete and I wouldn't recommend one even for an entry-level computer.

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Re:AMD Ryzen 3 1300X and Ryzen 3 1200 CPU Review by joezydeco on Thursday July 27, 2017 @02:53PM (#14868263)

Just using newegg.com is borderline impossible with just a few tabs open unless you have 4 non-SMT threads.

Can we take a moment...stop...and all re-read this again, and weep for where we've landed with all of this technology?

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Re:AMD Ryzen 3 1300X and Ryzen 3 1200 CPU Review by wokky on Thursday July 27, 2017 @04:45PM (#14869298)

Just using newegg.com is borderline impossible with just a few tabs open unless you have 4 non-SMT threads.

I have four Newegg tabs, one Amazon tab, one Verge tab, and one Engadget tab open in Firefox. CPU utilization is 3% on this ancient i3 laptop.

Maybe your experience isn't typical. That's all I'm suggesting.

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Re:AMD Ryzen 3 1300X and Ryzen 3 1200 CPU Review by Synaesthesia on Thursday July 27, 2017 @03:12PM (#14868419)

Does the iMac have an SSD? Because that makes a huge difference in UI responsiveness even in web browsing, much more than the CPU at that level anyway.

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Re:AMD Ryzen 3 1300X and Ryzen 3 1200 CPU Review by metalliqaz on Thursday July 27, 2017 @02:22PM (#14868010)

My experience has been the opposite. For running a browser, I'll take a faster dual core over a slower quad core. Simultaneous tabs are of little use to me if I can't scroll smoothly through Amazon.com.

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Re:AMD Ryzen 3 1300X and Ryzen 3 1200 CPU Review by rosser on Thursday July 27, 2017 @03:00PM (#14868313)

It not being the ideal choice for your specific use-case does not in any way make it a "total dog".

Just unsuited for you.

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Re:AMD Ryzen 3 1300X and Ryzen 3 1200 CPU Review by metalliqaz on Thursday July 27, 2017 @03:59PM (#14868883)

I suggest you actually read the article and take a look at the ST performance/price graph that I was referencing. The 1200 is an outlier.

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Re:AMD Ryzen 3 1300X and Ryzen 3 1200 CPU Review by dman on Thursday July 27, 2017 @11:39AM (#14866288)

Unless you are using the chips for something like compiling source code or running VMS, in which case the workloads scale almost linearly and the Zen lineup ends up looking like great value for money.

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Re:AMD Ryzen 3 1300X and Ryzen 3 1200 CPU Review by metalliqaz on Thursday July 27, 2017 @11:42AM (#14866318)

I said "in this price range". Who is using the lowest-end chips? It's not coders or creators. It's not gamers. It's people browsing the web. The responsiveness is the biggest performance metric in that case, and is directly related to straight-line performance.

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Re:AMD Ryzen 3 1300X and Ryzen 3 1200 CPU Review by dman on Thursday July 27, 2017 @11:51AM (#14866415)

I grew up in a developing country, for a long time my computer purchase decisions were overwhelmingly driven by price. Cheaper SKUs see far greater diverse use than you suspect.

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Re:AMD Ryzen 3 1300X and Ryzen 3 1200 CPU Review by floatboth on Thursday July 27, 2017 @05:27PM (#14869763)

All Ryzen CPUs are unlocked so you can run the 1200 at ~3.9GHZ, 4 if you're lucky. And the cheap B350 boards support overclocking.

Unlike Intel where you have to pay more $$$ for a K CPU and a top chipset (Z170/Z270) board.

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