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Re:42% of California’s STEM Workforce Hails from Outside the... by ajross on Tuesday July 25, 2017 @01:44PM (#14850034)
And once more, you're using "own" in a sense that seems really distasteful. In what sense is a south asian engineer who's been living in Emeryville for 16 years[1] not one of "our own" people?

[1] No idea if that's a median data point, but it's probably close. When people talk about STEM immigrants they mean very long term residents who will realistically be here with their families for the rest of their lives. You want to imagine a job-jacking horde of foreign-educated people who don't speak English. The truth is rather different.

Re:42% of California’s STEM Workforce Hails from Outside the... by jrs95 on Tuesday July 25, 2017 @01:51PM (#14850111)
Why are you trying to make this about race? Clearly someone who has been here for nearly 20 decades is someone who ought to be given citizenship. But that has nothing to do with preferring to continue to bring in foreign workers rather than invest in American citizens who are struggling.
Re:42% of California’s STEM Workforce Hails from Outside the... by minwcnt5 on Tuesday July 25, 2017 @02:04PM (#14850257)
Americans make up only 4.3% of the world's population. Thus, even if we invest much more in American citizens, which we surely should, don't you think it's inevitable that progress in tech will nevertheless be driven largely by foreigners going forward? We could choose not to let it happen on American soil, which some of the comments in this thread seem to be advocating, but I fail to see how such a policy would benefit Americans.
Re:42% of California’s STEM Workforce Hails from Outside the... by michaelmrose on Tuesday July 25, 2017 @02:35PM (#14850573)
A large population doesn't predict success in tech because there is no reason to suppose the proceeds of tech research will be evenly distributed per capita.

There is first the network effect, uneven distribution of financial resources, uneven availability of educational resources, the high number of societies that don't value individuality nor deviation from tradition and the norm.

Re:42% of California’s STEM Workforce Hails from Outside the... by thaumasiotes on Tuesday July 25, 2017 @02:31PM (#14850544)
> Americans make up only 4.3% of the world's population. Thus, even if we invest much more in American citizens, which we surely should, don't you think it's inevitable that progress in tech will nevertheless be driven largely by foreigners going forward?

Why? It's not like Americans were a much bigger share of the world population in the past.