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Re:The End of Arduino 101: Intel Leaves Maker Market by nerfhammer on Tuesday July 25, 2017 @12:13PM (#14848908)
I'm also pretty confused here. Are the "startups" in the ancestor threads more like college hackathon projects? Like I put a raspberry pi in my toaster and know nothing else about embedded systems, now how can I sell a million of these?
Re:The End of Arduino 101: Intel Leaves Maker Market by pjc50 on Tuesday July 25, 2017 @02:17PM (#14850382)
Kickstarter! You can easily pre-sell a million of them.

Actually shipping them turns out to be harder, but by that time you've got the money.

Re:The End of Arduino 101: Intel Leaves Maker Market by rfrank on Tuesday July 25, 2017 @03:33PM (#14851131)
(I work at an EMS provider)

Yes, that tends to be how startups come off - even the "sophisticated" ones. They tend to have minimal knowledge of the steps necessary to turn their prototype into a mass produced thing: DFM/DFF, supply chain management, identifying/negotiating with component/bare board suppliers, etc. Generally speaking, they need lots of hand holding through the entire process, and that makes it take way longer for everyone.

The nature of stateside electronics manufacturing doesn't help startups much in that regard, in that shops are kinda either set up for NPI and rapid prototyping or not. Sierra Circuits is good for that, but idk how well they'd fit with a startup budget. Beyond that, the low-complexity nature of most IoT products means they're more cost effectively manufactured in China, as most US shops focus on low to mid volume runs of high complexity boards, as opposed to high volume low complexity runs. Figuring out how to manufacture in China can be a big obstacle for any company, especially smaller ones.