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Re:Largest Bitcoin mixer, Bitmixer.io, closes down by throwanem on Tuesday July 25, 2017 @08:49AM (#14847272)
I fail to see how being murdered in a terrorist attack, or indeed in any other fashion, cannot be said to curtail the exercise of those rights the Declaration characterizes as inalienable, and indeed the exercise of any other rights we may care to consider likewise.

There are no immutable constants, gravitational or otherwise, in the world of human ideas. If you want me to agree with you that it's preferable to die than to be noninvasively and incidentally spied upon, it helps that cause not at all simply to say the truth of your perspective on the matter is as ineluctable as gravitation - this rather fails to convince.

Re:Largest Bitcoin mixer, Bitmixer.io, closes down by curun1r on Tuesday July 25, 2017 @12:48PM (#14849333)
Terrorism happens outside the constructs of our society. If it were government death squads going around killing people, you'd have a point. And if it weren't our government doing the spying, there'd be no point in expecting them to adhere to our principles. The discussion is about deciding what type of society we want to be and adhering to our own rules. That someone outside of our society chooses to break those rules doesn't create a license for us to do the same.

We don't win by compromising ourselves and fighting at their level. We win by being true to ourselves and being strong in the face of adversity. The more we can be ourselves, the stronger we'll be.

But what constitutes our desired selves is exactly the discussion. That's the "line" that I was asked to draw and I absolutely drew it for myself and I made that clear. I wasn't arguing that privacy is an immutable construct, I was arguing that law enforcement should view it as such because I feel it's fundamental to our value system. You don't see an aviation engineer arguing that gravity shouldn't exist just to make his job easier. He or she embraces that constraint and adapts as best as possible. Similarly, I'd like law enforcement to just embrace that privacy is an expectation in a free country and work within that reality. Others are free to disagree with me about the true nature of our desired society. For them, privacy may not be an hard and fast requirement. For me it is. That's my line.

Re:Largest Bitcoin mixer, Bitmixer.io, closes down by throwanem on Tuesday July 25, 2017 @02:43PM (#14850658)
> That someone outside of our society chooses to break those rules doesn't create a license for us to do the same.

Perhaps it creates a necessity. Dying to uphold a principle is fine and good, and very much easier when you get to have the principle and someone else has to do the dying.

Re:Largest Bitcoin mixer, Bitmixer.io, closes down by Jabanga on Tuesday July 25, 2017 @08:56AM (#14847316)
>noninvasively and incidentally spied upon,

Noninvasively spied upon? Having your privacy violated is invasive, by definition. Having a situation where one centre of power has extensive information on the private details of practically the entire population is an extremely dangerous situation, because knowledge is power, and that level of asymmetry in knowledge can (and I would argue will) lead to the population at large being exploited by those within this centre of power.

Re:Largest Bitcoin mixer, Bitmixer.io, closes down by throwanem on Tuesday July 25, 2017 @11:31AM (#14848484)
Strange - I don't feel invaded.
Re:Largest Bitcoin mixer, Bitmixer.io, closes down by tertius on Tuesday July 25, 2017 @01:01PM (#14849514)
Ignorance is bliss as they say.