Re:A Brighter Future for Electric Cars and the Planet
by cowmix on Monday July 24, 2017 @06:07PM
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Batteries are almost 100% recyclable. Also, with the Volt at least, zero failures of the battery systems:
http://insideevs.com/zero-first-generation-chevrolet-volt-ba...
Re:A Brighter Future for Electric Cars and the Planet
by greglindahl on Monday July 24, 2017 @09:35PM
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This isn't true, in the sense that recovering lithium from batteries is more expensive than mining new. The main reason for that is that lithium mining is extremely energy efficient and hence cheap.
Re:A Brighter Future for Electric Cars and the Planet
by cowmix on Monday July 24, 2017 @10:39PM
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The lithium is a small percentage of the battery by weight.
Re:A Brighter Future for Electric Cars and the Planet
by greglindahl on Monday July 24, 2017 @10:56PM
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Yes.
Re:A Brighter Future for Electric Cars and the Planet
by sokoloff on Monday July 24, 2017 @05:53PM
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> A replacement battery for my hybrid still runs a few thousand dollars and its only about 1 kilowatt.
kilowatt-hour is the measure of energy storage capacity.
kilowatt is a measure of power.
Re:A Brighter Future for Electric Cars and the Planet
by aphextron on Monday July 24, 2017 @05:47PM
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>Will replacement batteries cost a reasonable price? Or will manufacturers use this as an opportunity to try and get you to buy another car?
The standard for now seems to be a lifetime warranty or similar on battery failure. Hyundai and Chevy have both done this to sell the Ioniq EV and Bolt EV respectively. Whether or not that holds as these cars truly go mainstream is doubtful though.
Re:A Brighter Future for Electric Cars and the Planet
by legulere on Monday July 24, 2017 @06:58PM
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> I believe we're going to look back car's emissions the same way we look back at the pre-sewage treatment days
We will look back like that when we finally ban cars out of cities. Electric cars are less horrible than combustion cars, but are still horrible, because they are still cars.
Re:A Brighter Future for Electric Cars and the Planet
by greglindahl on Monday July 24, 2017 @05:49PM
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Small-battery all-electric cars (everything but Bolt/Tesla) have already had a lot of replacement batteries sold, so you could always look at that.
That being said, we haven't reached the EOL for this first generation of electric cars, and figured out what happens next. Will replacement batteries cost a reasonable price? Or will manufacturers use this as an opportunity to try and get you to buy another car? Maybe you'll be able to replace the old battery with a new one from a 3rd party, or maybe you won't because its loaded with DRM.
Battery prices may go down for automakers, but perhaps consumers won't see a huge benefit. A replacement battery for my hybrid still runs a few thousand dollars and its only about 1 kilowatt-hour.