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Re:Ways a VC says no without saying no by logicallee on Thursday July 20, 2017 @05:57PM (#14816642)
I don't understand your story. Why would they sign investments they can't pay for?
Re:Ways a VC says no without saying no by bluesteel44 on Thursday July 20, 2017 @06:18PM (#14816750)
Free option? Vanity? You get to know the books, the team, etc. And if before you ("VC") haven't been figured out the startup gets traction, you can find money to get in (maybe).
Re:Ways a VC says no without saying no by _e on Thursday July 20, 2017 @11:56PM (#14817956)
I think you hit it with the free option. They are syndicating their investment as soon as they have some sort of agreement and they probably have some contigencies that allow them to get out for any reason in the event they can't find investors.
Re:Ways a VC says no without saying no by PeterisP on Friday July 21, 2017 @07:57PM (#14824620)
Probably they intended to use and demo the signed investments to "sell" their fund / raise the money.
Re:Ways a VC says no without saying no by godzillabrennus on Friday July 28, 2017 @02:08AM (#14872330)
Bingo!

They thought they could raise the money once they had the portfolio.

Re:Ways a VC says no without saying no by chrisabrams on Thursday July 20, 2017 @06:17PM (#14816747)
You're trying to think rationally against an irrational situation :O
Re:Ways a VC says no without saying no by logicallee on Thursday July 20, 2017 @07:34PM (#14817069)
Something was going through their head. For comparison, how many people who are poor enter terms to buy hundreds of millions of dollars of property without having any mortgage or ability to pay or any expectation other than "wheeeeee - that was fun."

I'd wager approximately zero. There is more to the above story. As described, these VC's wasted tons of their own time. How did they even have offices?

Re:Ways a VC says no without saying no by charlesdm on Friday July 21, 2017 @06:30AM (#14819334)
There are ways to acquire assets without putting any money down yourself, so definitely possible, though not very easy.

An example: say you acquire a company worth $10m and have no money in the bank. You could pay 50% of it in stock ("you'll be part of an amazing growth story, and the $5m stock you get today will be worth $50m in 5 to 10 years") and then go borrow $5m from a bank (or go through an equity investor) to fund the other 50% of the acquisition price. But often you'll need a binding LoI to get a loan.

Doesn't always work, but if you're someone who is well connected then it's quite doable. I've seen it done.

Another person that comes to mind is David Baazov: https://www.forbes.com/sites/nathanvardi/2014/12/01/the-king.... He aligned things well and put deals together, and ended up making a ton of money because of it.

Re:Ways a VC says no without saying no by EGreg on Thursday July 20, 2017 @10:56PM (#14817735)
I toured some apartments without the ability to afford them.

Perhaps these VCs were expecting money to come in but in the end their fund fell apart?

Re:Ways a VC says no without saying no by logicallee on Friday July 21, 2017 @12:12AM (#14818009)
Touring is very different from signing!

OP said "had no money raised but signed $11.5MM in investments with startups". maybe they mispoke.