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Re:Eating Clean is Useless by bpodgursky on Tuesday July 18, 2017 @02:18AM (#14794573)
100-percent organic is often bad for the environment because it takes more land to grow the same food.

It often takes more energy to grow food locally (greenhouses and fertilizer) than transported food.

Antibiotic-raised foods grow faster and thus have better caloric ratios, and less farmland per pound of beef.

Re:Eating Clean is Useless by azinman2 on Tuesday July 18, 2017 @02:38AM (#14794657)
Source?

There are many ways in which organic and non-organic affect the environment other than land use (which is likely a marginal difference). Big agro, most associated with non-organic farming, does lots of bad things for the environment. Pesticides that are linked to decline of bee populations, pesticides that yield local imbalances in what animals/bugs are around to eat each other, synthetic fertilizers that thrash the land from being able to grow diverse crops into the future, chemical run offs into local water sources, exposure of workers to high concentrations of pesticides and their subsequent-related illnesses, GMO seeds spreading farther than the intended land mass mating with other species producing unknown effects (and lawsuits), etc.

Re:Eating Clean is Useless by jjawssd on Tuesday July 18, 2017 @12:03PM (#14797598)
This makes intuitive sense but I have never seen good evidence for it. I personally do not believe that:

  - organic food is bad for the environment 
  - organic food is less space efficient to grow
I do believe that:

  - organic food may have lower crop yields
Re:Eating Clean is Useless by bpodgursky on Tuesday July 18, 2017 @01:06PM (#14798178)
Uh...

> - organic food is less space efficient to grow > - organic food may have lower crop yields

These are the same thing. If you have to generate X calories, and you generate fewer per acre, then you need more acres of crop.

Re:Eating Clean is Useless by jjawssd on Tuesday July 18, 2017 @01:27PM (#14798372)
Think outside the box. Think 3D agriculture. Aeroponics.
Re:Eating Clean is Useless by Banthum on Tuesday July 18, 2017 @06:38PM (#14800602)
But if you're willing to do that for organic you're also willing to do that for non organic.
Re:Eating Clean is Useless by sapote on Tuesday July 18, 2017 @02:54AM (#14794725)
Organic food raised like industrial food will often take more land. But organic food raised in polyculture can sometimes take dramatically less space. Look up Land Equivalent Ratio and intercropping.