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Re:Bitcoin Is Having a Civil War as It Enters a Critical Month by jerguismi on Monday July 17, 2017 @12:42PM (#14790169)
No major bitcoin company has stated that they will run segwit2x client. If you have conflicting information, please link announcement/blog post about that.

As for the hashpower, it doesn't matter what clients miners run. You can't force the nodes to run specific client with hashpower.

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Re:Bitcoin Is Having a Civil War as It Enters a Critical Month by ChrisClark on Monday July 17, 2017 @12:53PM (#14790293)
I'm not picking a side, just delivering info:

You can see the signalling process here: https://coin.dance/blocks

90% are signalling the NYA intent to support Segwit2x. Since the software release 20% have signalled with segwit2x blocks.

You can see business support here: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Segwit_support#Businesses

I'm not sure if you consider Coinbase a major bitcoin company yourself, but I think they qualify.

If I was to make a prediction, everyone will be running segwit2x or another client faking segwit2x support, to get segwit passed by Aug 1st. Then once October comes along we'll have another fight over the actual blocksize hardfork.

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Re:Bitcoin Is Having a Civil War as It Enters a Critical Month by jerguismi on Monday July 17, 2017 @01:08PM (#14790440)
> You can see business support here: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Segwit_support#Businesses > I'm not sure if you consider Coinbase a major bitcoin company yourself, but I think they qualify.

That doesn't look like a very good proof. If coinbase plans to adopt segwit2x, why haven't they released an announcement? I wouldn't trust that wiki list very much.

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Re:Bitcoin Is Having a Civil War as It Enters a Critical Month by ChrisClark on Monday July 17, 2017 @01:14PM (#14790506)
You can click through to see the sources on each one on the table there.

And don't trust the wiki, no need to. Trust the hash power. The NYA signal was just a promise, so don't trust that one. But the BIP91 signals are coming in already. Just need to get that over 80% for just over 2 days. Then we'll see the original segwit signals jump to the 95%+ it needs.

But the truth is, you don't have to worry about finding any support proof or anything. We'll know what happens over the next week or two for sure. I don't care whatever direction it goes in, I just want it to go smoothly.

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Re:Bitcoin Is Having a Civil War as It Enters a Critical Month by jerguismi on Monday July 17, 2017 @01:26PM (#14790604)
Well certainly it will be interesting if this trick gets miners to signal segwit, as currently the segwit signaling is only around 45%.
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Re:Bitcoin Is Having a Civil War as It Enters a Critical Month by stale2002 on Monday July 17, 2017 @03:57PM (#14791843)
They did release an announcement. They signed the original new york agreement letter.
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Re:Bitcoin Is Having a Civil War as It Enters a Critical Month by stale2002 on Monday July 17, 2017 @12:58PM (#14790337)
Wrong. Coinbase is on board.

They were an original signer of the new york agreement, which is how segwit2X was created.

If you want a link, just read the new york agreement announcement.

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Re:Bitcoin Is Having a Civil War as It Enters a Critical Month by buttershakes on Monday July 17, 2017 @12:54PM (#14790296)
You basically can do exactly that. Unless the companies involved want to run on a minority chain with much less hash power, which means they are exposing themselves to a 51% attack as soon as their difficulty drops significantly behind the majority. Hash power is a very big stick.
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Re:Bitcoin Is Having a Civil War as It Enters a Critical Month by jerguismi on Monday July 17, 2017 @12:59PM (#14790347)
All those claiming that coinbase is planning to run segwit2x, please link to a statement provided by a representative of that company. I think you are just talking bullshit.
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Re:Bitcoin Is Having a Civil War as It Enters a Critical Month by pandemicsyn on Monday July 17, 2017 @02:08PM (#14790949)
Disclaimer: I don't know anything about bitcoin or if segwit2x is even the same as segwit...But a quick google for "coinbase segwit" shows this tweet from the Coinbase CEO - https://twitter.com/brian_armstrong/status/81725801561932185...
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Re:Bitcoin Is Having a Civil War as It Enters a Critical Month by mhluongo on Monday July 17, 2017 @09:15PM (#14793664)
That's from before the New York agreement (SegWit2x) so it's not definitive. In fact many who explicitly don't support SegWit2x support plain SegWit.
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Re:Bitcoin Is Having a Civil War as It Enters a Critical Month by eganist on Monday July 17, 2017 @01:20PM (#14790553)
https://medium.com/@DCGco/bitcoin-scaling-agreement-at-conse...

The digital currency group (dcg.co) includes Coinbase in its portfolio.

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Re:Bitcoin Is Having a Civil War as It Enters a Critical Month by jerguismi on Monday July 17, 2017 @01:27PM (#14790612)
That agreement seems very general, doesn't indicate that the participants will run specific code. Segwit2x client didn't even exist at that time, first release was yesterday.

People are just making this bullshit up.

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Re:Bitcoin Is Having a Civil War as It Enters a Critical Month by mhluongo on Monday July 17, 2017 @01:42PM (#14790738)
Not making it up, talking to real people in the space.

You can also check out the SegWit2x mailing list archive [0] for companies actively testing SegWit2x. From there I've seen BitGo, Blockchain, Bloq, OB1 (Open Bazaar), Purse.. these are significant companies in the Bitcoin economy.

[0] https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-segwit2x...

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Re:Bitcoin Is Having a Civil War as It Enters a Critical Month by jerguismi on Monday July 17, 2017 @02:02PM (#14790892)
> companies actively testing SegWit2x

Testing is very different from actually running it in production. Companies test out a lot of different things. I think with consensus code companies will be very careful and if they plan to do something regarding that, they will announce it clearly, not in some half-assed wiki site or medium post.

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Re:Bitcoin Is Having a Civil War as It Enters a Critical Month by mhluongo on Monday July 17, 2017 @02:12PM (#14790977)
> some half-assed wiki or medium post

That's... you're woefully out of touch with how people communicate in this space.

Show me where on these companies' sites it says "We run 0.14.2 of the reference client, with this patch set, and don't plan to ever change"?

Anyway, we'll see what happens in the next two weeks I guess. I'm expecting we lock-in SegWit via the SegWit2x client and then have another debate in a few months about the hard fork. Hoping not too many sw2x supporters get cold feet in the meantime.

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