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Re:The First Complete Map of the Ocean Floor Is Stirring Con... by jjr8 on Thursday July 13, 2017 @08:31PM (#14766537)
The article makes it sound as though the seafloor is virtually unknown outside of areas surveyed with multibeam sonar, which is a relatively small fraction of the seafloor. In fact, other technologies have been used to map the entire planet to a resolution of 15-60 arc second resolution (roughly 500-2000m). See http://topex.ucsd.edu/WWW_html/srtm30_plus.html for one such widely used, freely available dataset. What multibeam provides over extant dataset such as that one is much higher resolution.
Re:The First Complete Map of the Ocean Floor Is Stirring Con... by mmanfrin on Thursday July 13, 2017 @08:41PM (#14766585)

  roughly 500-2000m
That gives broad strokes but I really would hesitate to use this as a counterexample against the notion that we haven't mapped the seafloor.
Re:The First Complete Map of the Ocean Floor Is Stirring Con... by jjr8 on Thursday July 13, 2017 @10:23PM (#14766958)
It depends on what you're interested in. Admittedly, if you want, say, a global map of all hydrothermal vents, 500-2000m is not going to cut it. But the time and cost required to map the entire ocean with multibeam sonar is huge, on the order of 120 ship-years for the deep oceans and 750 ship-years for the shallow (<500m) continental margins [1].

Global coverage at 500-2000m resolution from satellite gravitometers represents a very cost effective middle ground between that huge effort and what is currently available, which is a patchwork of soundings that has gaps 10s to 100s of km thoughout much of the ocean. (See Fig 2 of [1]).

[1] Becker at al. (2009) http://topex.ucsd.edu/sandwell/publications/124_MG_Becker.pd...

Re:The First Complete Map of the Ocean Floor Is Stirring Con... by cobbzilla on Thursday July 13, 2017 @11:49PM (#14767322)
could 100 solar/wave-powered drones do the job in 10 years?
Re:The First Complete Map of the Ocean Floor Is Stirring Con... by nine_k on Thursday July 13, 2017 @09:10PM (#14766701)
At a resolution like that, a major city would be 20-50 pixels across. It's likely great for tracking large geological features, but still must miss a lot of interesting and important things.
Re:The First Complete Map of the Ocean Floor Is Stirring Con... by jpttsn on Friday July 14, 2017 @08:56AM (#14769406)
Maybe we can let the prior assumption, that there are more geological features than cities on the seabed, do some work?
Re:The First Complete Map of the Ocean Floor Is Stirring Con... by rosser on Thursday July 13, 2017 @09:04PM (#14766679)
At that resolution, you probably couldn't distinguish the TransAmerica Pyramid from the SalesForce Tower.

I wouldn't call that particularly well-known.

Re:The First Complete Map of the Ocean Floor Is Stirring Con... by icantdrive55 on Thursday July 13, 2017 @09:33PM (#14766774)
Fun fact: My dad worked on the TransAmerica Pyramid as an electrician. He once took me to work. I was always asking him about the very top.

That day, he took me to the top. He opened a steel door, and set up a 6' wooden ladder. He climbed up the ladder, and there was a 1' x 1' square that you could fit your head through. He stuck his head through, and said it wasn't that great. I knew he was playing it down, for my sake.

I asked him one more time if I could climb up and look.

He climbed down, picked me up, and he climbed the ladder, and put my head through the hole. The hole was unfinished, and it was dirty inside the space. I remember seeing a gum wrapper, and that fine construction dirt up there. Looking back it was probably Sheetrock dust.

I vaguely remember I could see the city, but the glass, or plexiglass, was dirty. It was neat though. The kids at school didn't believe me. He didn't want me to climb in, but I asked.

The best part of that day was being with my dad. We ate lunch, and my dad said, 'Well at least your mom took the wrapper off the cheese today.' (This was the late 60's, or 70's, and my mom hated being a homemaker.)

Re:The First Complete Map of the Ocean Floor Is Stirring Con... by jeff_tyrrill on Thursday July 13, 2017 @09:56PM (#14766847)
icantdrive55, you've been shadowbanned for a long time, and I see no obvious reason for it in your comment history. I'd suggest getting in touch with the site admins to inquire.
Re:The First Complete Map of the Ocean Floor Is Stirring Con... by mercer on Friday July 14, 2017 @02:18AM (#14767916)
Indeed. I have them tagged as 'shitposter' (with the HN Enhancement Suite Chrome extension), but I just had a look and I'm not even sure why I felt that tag was justified.

At worst there's a lot of 'low-quality' rambling, but usually I then tag the user as 'shitty poster' (my approach to categorization can be a bit odd) and I'll downvote the worst of the comments when I see them.

Could it be that after a certain number of heavily downvoted comments it causes an automatic shadowban? Or maybe some deleted or edited comments that were reason to do so?

Re:The First Complete Map of the Ocean Floor Is Stirring Con... by consz on Friday July 14, 2017 @04:27AM (#14768381)
I suspect it's because he posts reddit-style free writing stories. Maybe a year or two that was unacceptable on HN, but given that at this point, HN and reddit are indistinguishable from each other, I agree that there's no point in keeping him shadowbanned.
Re:The First Complete Map of the Ocean Floor Is Stirring Con... by TeMPOraL on Friday July 14, 2017 @06:33AM (#14768777)
Stories were always welcome. Complaints comparing HN and Reddit are an annoying occurence since time immemorial, too.
Re:The First Complete Map of the Ocean Floor Is Stirring Con... by rosser on Friday July 14, 2017 @12:22PM (#14771013)
Calling them "indistinguishable" is the kind of "welp!" hyperbole that excuses — no, encourages — the slide you bemoan.

If that's what HN is, congratulations: You just helped make it that way a little bit more.

Re:The First Complete Map of the Ocean Floor Is Stirring Con... by consz on Monday July 17, 2017 @06:22PM (#14792734)
I'm not sure where your hostile tone is coming from -- I prefer reddit to HN, and don't have any issues with them being (more) similar. I only used that as a descriptor for his stories because I've heard that used as an explicit reason for people having downvoted/flagged similar types of posts in the past.
Re:The First Complete Map of the Ocean Floor Is Stirring Con... by Stratoscope on Friday July 14, 2017 @04:08AM (#14768318)
Thank you for that neat little story!