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Re:Battle for the Internet by munificent on Wednesday July 12, 2017 @01:01PM (#14754241)
I'm not an expert on net neutrality, but just looking at your claims, the obvious rebuttals are:

> 1. The Title II Regs were designed during the Great Depression to address Ma Bell and don't match the internet now.

The point in time and original intent that something was created for has little bearing on its current suitability. Hammers with handles were invented in the Stone Age to break wood and stones. They still work just fine for putting in nails today.

If the Title II Regs effectively accomplish the high level goals of network neutrality, then it's irrelevant what original goals it had.

> 2. The FCC isn't the right vehicle for addressing anti-competitive behavior in this case; the FTC would be better.

The perfect is the enemy of the good. Is there any ongoing plan to have the FTC regulate this? Who is driving that? Is the argument that if the FTC does not do this, then having the FCC do it is worse than doing nothing?

Politics is always a game of compromise and incremental improvement. There are no perfect laws.

> 3. The internet didn't need fixing in 2010 when the regs were passed.

I'm not sure what this is even claiming. Is the idea that the law was passed to early so should be repealed now? We started agreeing to nonproliferation treaties before we had multi-state nuclear wars. Should we have waited until after that before doing those?

Isn't prevention better than cure?

Re:Battle for the Internet by jjoonathan on Wednesday July 12, 2017 @02:21PM (#14755098)
Re #3: the "new" laws passed in 2010 maintained the FCC's responsibility to enforce neutrality in the face of a court decision that would have otherwise have revoked it. The responsibility existed before the 2010 laws.

If it wasn't broke in 2010, keeping the "new" laws on the books constitutes "not fixing it".

Re:Battle for the Internet by chasing on Wednesday July 12, 2017 @01:51PM (#14754780)
> Politics is always a game of compromise and incremental improvement. There are no perfect laws.

Amen.

Re:Battle for the Internet by kahnpro on Friday July 14, 2017 @05:03AM (#14768519)
> Isn't prevention better than cure?

Agreed. Technology moves way too fast, by the time we get a cure to the problem, businesses will have moved on to a new way to screw everyone.

The problems we should prevent aren't exactly rocket science to figure out.

Re:Battle for the Internet by hueving on Thursday July 13, 2017 @10:26AM (#14761497)
>Isn't prevention better than cure?

No. There is very rarely an example of a regulation being passed in the fast moving field of technology that has no poor side effects. Unless there is a glaring problem, it is reckless to pass regulations for what-if scenarios.

Re:Battle for the Internet by pyre on Wednesday July 12, 2017 @01:57PM (#14754831)
> Isn't prevention better than cure?

I can easily think of opposition rebuttals to this:

1. It's a solution in search of a problem.

2. It's a premature optimization.

3. The cure could be worse than the disease.

etc...

Re:Battle for the Internet by throwawayjava on Wednesday July 12, 2017 @02:22PM (#14755104)
Those aren't rebuttals, they're platitudes.
Re:Battle for the Internet by notduncansmith on Wednesday July 12, 2017 @03:12PM (#14755639)
Welcome to politics.
Re:Battle for the Internet by collinmanderson on Wednesday July 12, 2017 @04:19PM (#14756270)
> premature optimization

Yes. I feel like Net Neutrality is trying to solve a mostly hypothetical issue.

Re:Battle for the Internet by syrrim on Wednesday July 12, 2017 @05:46PM (#14756978)
... then why are ISPs working so hard to get rid of it?
Re:Battle for the Internet by state_less on Thursday July 13, 2017 @12:16AM (#14758645)
So they can increase their ability to control a captive audience?