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Re:Building the XNU kernel on macOS Sierra by pjmlp on Wednesday July 12, 2017 @02:29AM (#14750543)
I came to realize that for those of us that actually care about graphics programming, nice GUI tools and UI/UX, Linux world will never be the place to be.

The majority of devs are happy having a replicate of PDP-11 experience, maybe with twm and tools like xdvi or xv.

Those that try to improve the overall desktop experience closer to other desktop systems, get bashed as needless fluff.

Re:Building the XNU kernel on macOS Sierra by swiley on Wednesday July 12, 2017 @09:37AM (#14752390)
I have been continuously let down by GUI tools with "Good UX" on every platform to the point that I honestly don't trust them to be well behaved and well documented any more.

I know it's technically possible to write a good GUI tool but if some tool doesn't have a fully functional CLI I immediately distrust it.

Re:Building the XNU kernel on macOS Sierra by bostand on Wednesday July 12, 2017 @05:23AM (#14751156)
Your posts are full of stereotypes...
Re:Building the XNU kernel on macOS Sierra by coldtea on Wednesday July 12, 2017 @08:27AM (#14751888)
Unless we're talking about a fabrication, a stereotype is just another word for empirical observation.

It will not be true for absolutely all instances (almost nothing is except the laws of physics), but it's just supposed to tell what the most common observed case.

Without stereotypes (a.k.a. generalizations) there's no science and no discussion possible.

You can fault a stereotype for not being representative (if you have different observations or stats or explanation etc.), in which case it's a bad stereotype, but not for being a stereotype.

Re:Building the XNU kernel on macOS Sierra by pjmlp on Wednesday July 12, 2017 @07:02AM (#14751503)
Those stereotypes are backed by HN posts about how the CLI is so great, how using a tiling window manager is so great, how using XFCE (a CDE clone) is all that is needed, that GNOME/KDE devs destroy the desktop because they care about UI/UX for non-technical users, that systemd is a desktop plague infecting servers,....

Plenty of material.

Re:Building the XNU kernel on macOS Sierra by coldtea on Wednesday July 12, 2017 @08:32AM (#14751924)
Apparently using one's mental faculties and empirical observations to make a generalization has gone out of fashion.

On the other hand, linking to some crappy research in a hastily peer "reviewed" journal, with 20 participants and no controls, that satisfies your biases and which you haven't even read except for the abstract is considered epitome of discussion.

Re:Building the XNU kernel on macOS Sierra by MrBuddyCasino on Wednesday July 12, 2017 @07:24AM (#14751584)
Don't be so quick to discount stereotypes. Look at them as a sort of Bayesian prior - updated by individual encounters, but often not completely off the mark.
Re:Building the XNU kernel on macOS Sierra by bostand on Wednesday July 12, 2017 @08:22AM (#14751866)
But if his observations are so far of the mark you can be pretty sure his stereotypes are too.

By the way, visual studio and intelij idea look the same on all platforms

Re:Building the XNU kernel on macOS Sierra by coldtea on Wednesday July 12, 2017 @08:29AM (#14751901)
After 20+ years of "next year is the year of Linux on the desktop" (which is about Linux seriously challenging or even overtaking MS on desktop users, not just the "Linux works fine for me on my desktop" which was always the case for some outliers) and following Gnome and KDE closely, and efforts by Ubuntu etc and reactions, his observations sounds quite to the point.
Re:Building the XNU kernel on macOS Sierra by bostand on Wednesday July 12, 2017 @10:03AM (#14752575)
Who cares about year of Linux?

I have never been as productive as I am now. No more fighting xcode or using outdated core tools.

Re:Building the XNU kernel on macOS Sierra by coldtea on Wednesday July 12, 2017 @10:27AM (#14752751)
>Who cares about year of Linux?

Apparently tons of people -- at least did.

>No more fighting xcode or using outdated core tools.

Well, if you don't need to use Swift/Obj-C or develop for Mac/iOS (which apparently you don't) then why use XCode at all in the first place?

Re:Building the XNU kernel on macOS Sierra by qubex on Wednesday July 12, 2017 @09:18AM (#14752222)
I see it not as a Bayesian prior but as a form of compressed sensing.