Why Did It Take Devuan Two Years to Replace Systemd?

Re:Why Did It Take Devuan Two Years to Replace Systemd? by KirinDave on Tuesday July 11, 2017 @07:36PM (#14748993)

"Battle-hardened" code is a myth. Please do not appeal to it. Either you're doing the hard work for security or you aren't.

You do not need to experience a breach in advance to have a hope of stopping a breach.

Besides, if people cared about security they'd use tools and languages and runtimes that help them test thst code works right. They don't, by and large.

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Re:Why Did It Take Devuan Two Years to Replace Systemd? by echaozh on Wednesday July 12, 2017 @12:34AM (#14750144)

Hey, systemd has to be shipped when it's immature because you need users to try it out and help catch all the bugs and insecurities. Now you say battle hardened code is a myth.

Sure, people should audit their own tools, but there are also casual users. And there are indirect users. They are entitled to enjoy the better (if not perfect) security provided by battle hardened code.

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Re:Why Did It Take Devuan Two Years to Replace Systemd? by KirinDave on Wednesday July 12, 2017 @10:29AM (#14752765)

I'm not sure why you're attributing that argument to me, but please don't fall into the habit of merging all the people who disagree with you in a thread into some kind of intellectual chimera.

I've even said above I agree with criticisms that systemd didn't plan and was deployed too early and too fast.

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