Re:Learn Python 3 the Hard Way
by badloginagain on Friday July 07, 2017 @07:08PM
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I started with LPTHW. Like literally did not know what a string was started. I remember the part of the book recommending to use 2 until 3 was as complete. I remember not caring either way.
Beginners do not care about Python versions. They're trying to figure out why their string won't print, running into bugs like: 'I'm printing a string' and being _stumped_. These people are not going to be contributing to Python3 migration, they're just not there yet.
And if people are running production grade applications are listening to Zed? Well, good luck to 'em.
Re:Learn Python 3 the Hard Way
by LyndsySimon on Friday July 07, 2017 @08:23PM
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> I know he has been a strong advocate against it for a long time but it would be really silly for people to hold that against Zed or his books into the future.
Opinions are opinions. This isn't about opinions; it's about behavior.
Re:Learn Python 3 the Hard Way
by hprotagonist on Friday July 07, 2017 @07:12PM
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>Zed Shaw educates ALOT of beginners about Python. Everyone should be both glad and supportive that his education is now in the Python 3 world.
That entirely depends on the quality of the instruction.
Last time this came around, he was willfully misrepresenting the difference between "str" and "bytes" specifically to gripe about how used to python 2's broken implementation he was. That's not helping.
Zed Shaw educates ALOT of beginners about Python. Everyone should be both glad and supportive that his education is now in the Python 3 world.
Time for everyone to leave the angst of Python 2 behind.
I can no longer think of any prominent industry figure who stands openly against Python 3. With no well known industry figures standing openly against Python 3, I think the long and painful transition can now be said to be complete. Finished. Certainly much Python 2 code still exists but conceptually Python 2 is now legacy.
Thanks to Zed for his work on the Python 3 book.