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Re:Tim Berners-Lee approves Web DRM, but W3C members have tw... by seltzered_ on Friday July 07, 2017 @06:05PM (#14722544)
No, but maybe we need to look at it from relative numbers.

Example: DRM music hasn't stopped music piracy, but better models for the content distribution (i.e. DRM music platforms like spotify, etc.) have demotivated more people from bothering to pirate music.

Re:Tim Berners-Lee approves Web DRM, but W3C members have tw... by Tostino on Friday July 07, 2017 @07:13PM (#14722955)
The fact that spotify has DRM is inconsequential to it, and those like it stomping out a ton of music piracy. It's all about the distribution model, and the DRM is just to make the rights holders happy.
Re:Tim Berners-Lee approves Web DRM, but W3C members have tw... by josteink on Saturday July 08, 2017 @02:33AM (#14724397)
But Spotify is a native app.

It can have all the drm it wants. It's not part of the open web.

Re:Tim Berners-Lee approves Web DRM, but W3C members have tw... by scotty79 on Monday July 10, 2017 @05:24AM (#14734452)
I always listen to spotify through web browser. I think it uses flash then.
Re:Tim Berners-Lee approves Web DRM, but W3C members have tw... by bubblethink on Friday July 07, 2017 @06:24PM (#14722677)
A big problem with piracy is that piracy tech hasn't advanced in 2 decades, whereas the rest of the world has moved on. There are two major challenges. Due to DMCA, anonymity is a major obstacle for which there isn't a good solution yet. TOR, vpns etc. aren't well suited for content distribution. Second, the bittorrent model itself doesn't work very well for streaming.
Re:Tim Berners-Lee approves Web DRM, but W3C members have tw... by mnm1 on Saturday July 08, 2017 @01:58AM (#14724314)
"Second, the bittorrent model itself doesn't work very well for streaming."

Wrong. It works incredibly well. That's why the anti-piracy companies are all up in arms over things like PopcornTime. All you need are a couple of other people to download from. Hell, there's whole pieces of software whose whole purpose it is to stream torrents and they do it extremely well. Nothing even compares to the video quality, which is the same as if you downloaded the file ahead of time.

"TOR, vpns etc. aren't well suited for content distribution."

WTF does this mean? You can't distribute content over Tor or VPNs? I only do it every single fucking day without any problems and with ease.

"Due to DMCA, anonymity is a major obstacle for which there isn't a good solution yet."

The DMCA created anonymity? Whatever, I'm not even going to try to understand this one.

Re:Tim Berners-Lee approves Web DRM, but W3C members have tw... by bubblethink on Saturday July 08, 2017 @05:41PM (#14727324)
>The DMCA created anonymity? Whatever, I'm not even going to try to understand this one

Not sure if you are trying to be intentionally dense. Have you heard of DMCA notices ? You get them if your IP is in the swarm, and are uploading copyrighted content. Hence the need for anonymity.

>WTF does this mean? You can't distribute content over Tor or VPNs?

Again, you seem to like being thick for no reason. You can distribute content over every medium imaginable. That doesn't make it the best or an efficient medium.

>Wrong. It works incredibly well.

You can't have adaptive streaming bitrates. The tracker model still relies on a central tracker. Magnet links solve some of those issues, but not everything. There are still some things that are, or would be better off, being centralised. There are several limitations that we don't need to go into length, but it's a far cry from incredible.