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Re:That Misery Called Meditation by rikthevik on Tuesday June 29, 2010 @12:10PM (#1471838)
Does anyone else ever get the desire to throw off the shackles of this Western society, renounce their possessions and go live in a monastery somewhere?
Re:That Misery Called Meditation by pavel_lishin on Tuesday June 29, 2010 @12:36PM (#1471931)
Yes, especially after reading Anathem.

Then I realize that my refrigerator is full of delicious things, and that my friends mostly live in Western society.

Re:That Misery Called Meditation by mcantor on Tuesday June 29, 2010 @12:56PM (#1471996)
Desire is the cause of all suffering, but there's also bacon.
Re:That Misery Called Meditation by jw84 on Tuesday June 29, 2010 @04:15PM (#1472645)
Attachment is the root of all suffering. The subtlety is that one may want but clinging onto that desire and not letting go creates pain.
Re:That Misery Called Meditation by adammichaelc on Tuesday June 29, 2010 @04:29PM (#1472709)
Joy can't exist without suffering.
Re:That Misery Called Meditation by rokhayakebe on Tuesday June 29, 2010 @06:50PM (#1473185)
But you do not have to experience a feeling to fully enjoy its opposite.
Re:That Misery Called Meditation by dasil003 on Wednesday June 30, 2010 @02:01AM (#1474033)
Define "fully"
Re:That Misery Called Meditation by rokhayakebe on Wednesday June 30, 2010 @04:37PM (#1476125)
I can't.
Re:That Misery Called Meditation by Jach on Wednesday June 30, 2010 @02:50AM (#1474088)
Source? I keep seeing this thrown around, and I really don't see how it follows. Do you really think people can't just be happy, that they need suffering in their lives, or knowledge of someone suffering? Perhaps we're operating under different definitions of 'suffering', but I'd be really interested to hear a good case study on this.
Re:That Misery Called Meditation by lincolnq on Tuesday June 29, 2010 @01:25PM (#1472095)
Do you think it would be possible to replicate the relevant aspects of the math from Anathem? How much money would it take? I bet there would be a decent number of people in the world who would want to commit for a year or two. And I'd like to imagine that there would be some useful research that would come out of it...
Re:That Misery Called Meditation by chaosmachine on Tuesday June 29, 2010 @04:07PM (#1472608)
That was my plan if my startup failed. Fortunately(?), it didn't.
Re:That Misery Called Meditation by rokhayakebe on Tuesday June 29, 2010 @06:51PM (#1473190)
I say drive for an hour or two, find some place with streaming water and some trees or just a huge green field, and take a day there.
Re:That Misery Called Meditation by cylinder714 on Wednesday June 30, 2010 @02:38PM (#1475721)
A feature of meditation is that it is portable--you can do it virtually anywhere, anytime. Awareness and equanimity are the only ingredients required.
Re:That Misery Called Meditation by pstuart on Tuesday June 29, 2010 @05:18PM (#1472889)
Just for a year.
Re:That Misery Called Meditation by dinde on Tuesday June 29, 2010 @01:38PM (#1472140)
All the time!