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Re:El Niño-like weather increases California precipitation i... by treehau5 on Thursday July 06, 2017 @06:49PM (#14714592)
We need to get the climate debate away from the ends, and look more at what is actually happening, i.e the facts. The facts are we have more carbon in our atmosphere than ever recorded, and it is a direct relation to human activities. We are losing glaciers at alarming rates. New invasive species that thrive in moist humid environments are now being unleashed. Sea levels are rising.

It doesn't take a scientist to understand that the more heat that gets trapped in our atmosphere, and the more glaciers and ice caps that melt, the worse off we are going to be. I don't need a scientist to tell me that California might have 100 years of this, or Sahara Desert might turn into a tropical rainforest. It is enough for me to know that this will have a devastating impact on ecological systems across the globe, and the vast majority of people live near water, and sea levels are rising.

I live in a state where the majority of the population is rural and most people are farmers. I ask climate change deniers if they "believe" in greenhouses, and they look at me like I am silly. Then I explain to them that what we are doing is creating a very big green house. This usually does the trick.

Re:El Niño-like weather increases California precipitation i... by godshatter on Friday July 07, 2017 @12:12PM (#14719548)
>We need to get the climate debate away from the ends, and look more at what is actually happening, i.e the facts.

I tend to watch a few websites every day to keep tabs on what's happening. There is so much crap being said on both sides that I've reverted to just watching the numbers to see where we are.

My list: http://spaceweather.com/ to watch sunspot activity, http://wattsupwiththat.com/reference-pages/sea-ice-page/ to watch arctic sea ice area and extent and arctic mean temperature, http://www.drroyspencer.com/latest-global-temperatures/ for monthly temperatures, http://www.cpc.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/ensostu... to see where we are in the El Nino/La Nina cycle, http://sealevel.colorado.edu/ to see what the sea level graph is doing.

Re:El Niño-like weather increases California precipitation i... by omegaworks on Friday July 07, 2017 @08:26PM (#14723343)
http://www.projectmidas.org/ is also a great resource for tracking the Antarctic geographic changes.
Re:El Niño-like weather increases California precipitation i... by rednerrus on Thursday July 06, 2017 @07:21PM (#14714769)
I am not arguing the legitimacy of climate change but this specific instance of the science.
Re:El Niño-like weather increases California precipitation i... by KirinDave on Thursday July 06, 2017 @09:25PM (#14715326)
Then why did your previous post refer to scientists as a collective and the phenomena in general as opposed to a concrete instance?