Re:Hard Truths about Programming
by user5994461 on Thursday July 06, 2017 @07:00PM
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Amateur mistake ;)
Truth be told: Titles are meaningless, the only thing that matters is the pay.
Giving impressive titles is simply a very cheap and efficient way to make naive young employees feel important and valued, while really they are not.
#ForwardDeployedEngineer
Re:Hard Truths about Programming
by throwaway2016a on Thursday July 06, 2017 @07:02PM
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Until you have to hire more team members in which case you may have a problem. That is how companies get absurd things like three different technology VPs and a CTO in a 10 person company. (exaggerated obviously)
Re:Hard Truths about Programming
by mistermann on Thursday July 06, 2017 @07:27PM
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Or your environment is an absolute flaming disaster but your manager gives you a bad review because they don't understand why someone would want to write unit tests to run across distributed databases to confirm consistency and correctness. So, your environment remains in a broken state, reports have wrong numbers, and development moves at a snails pace because of constant issues. And the person that actually knew enough to identify and fix the problem is fired for insubordination.
Re:Hard Truths about Programming
by throwaway2016a on Thursday July 06, 2017 @08:25PM
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Or that...
I think you might not be charging enough.
Re:Hard Truths about Programming
by throwaway2016a on Thursday July 06, 2017 @08:24PM
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Not saying I disagree but... out of curiosity, what do you think we should charge for an API + native iOS app + app landing page / website + QA? I know you don't know the details of the specification but ballpark.
Re:Hard Truths about Programming
by marktangotango on Friday July 07, 2017 @09:09AM
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1 dev for backend and api, 1 dev for phone app, 1 qa, outsource landing page. 3 months for the project. Monthly spend: 3.5 x n where n is a proxy for quality and probability of successful project completion; $5k, $10k, $20k.
3 x 3.5 x $20k = $210k
Re:Hard Truths about Programming
by throwaway2016a on Friday July 07, 2017 @12:39PM
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Thank you. This is helpful for me. I always tell my CEO we don't charge enough.
With that said though, it didn't take us three months. But we had slightly more people than you gave too.
Meanwhile to some of these points... we had a client recently where we built their mobile app. Large app, over $50,000 with a full API backend. Not a simple hello world. And then they hired someone straight from a boot camp to manage their mobile app, API, website, everything. And gave that person a Director title.
Yes, I know, titles are cheap at startups. But I guess you can learn to code in three months and not only get a job but apparently be director level.