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Re:El Niño-like weather increases California precipitation i... by phkahler on Thursday July 06, 2017 @05:06PM (#14713966)
Your comment will certainly get downvoted here for several reasons. 1) No useful content 2) Pure sarcasm 3) being a bit AGW. Having said that, I have to agree with your sentiment.

Just two years ago the news was all about how the CA drought was all because of carbon emissions and global warming. At least this paper does not do a full flip-flop and claim the recent precipitation is due to GW. It suggests the future may have higher or lower precipitation and large uncertainty - perhaps large variability due to the region being near a transition. Regardless of what its trying to say, it can be viewed through an AGW lens as "we fucked up last time, but here's why and BTW it's still all from CO2."

My take away is just that modeling this stuff is really hard and they aren't there yet.

Re:El Niño-like weather increases California precipitation i... by abritinthebay on Thursday July 06, 2017 @06:04PM (#14714319)
Remember: CA is STILL in a drought (mostly just SoCal, but still). It's just had a really good winter season that means it's likely to be not the utter trash fire the last few summers were.

For years CA has got worse and worse drought wise - one great year of rain that brought the state back from Exceptional and Extreme drought levels across almost the entire state to still Abnormal or Severe in about 25% of the state is really just a blip.

Like... one year is a data-point, not a pattern, and even if CA gets more rain in the winter it would appear to be getting hotter in the summer which is really not good.

Re:El Niño-like weather increases California precipitation i... by djrogers on Thursday July 06, 2017 @06:39PM (#14714540)
> it would appear to be getting hotter in the summer

Hasn’t really been the case this year so far.

Re:El Niño-like weather increases California precipitation i... by abritinthebay on Thursday July 06, 2017 @07:35PM (#14714844)
We're like... 6 days into July. The hottest period in CA weather is July-September. Somewhat early to call.

Plus, again, the rain and weather in winter and spring is record breakingly anomalous this year. So "this year so far" is not really a sane comparison.

The trend overall has been clear. Using this year is like when people say "we had record snowfall in upstate NY this year, so much for global warming, nyuk nyuk". It doesn't follow.

Re:El Niño-like weather increases California precipitation i... by triangleman on Thursday July 06, 2017 @05:32PM (#14714145)
Has anyone produced a model that has predicted long term temperature or climate trends for 10+ years? Like for instance a model run in 2007 that predicted global temperature in 2017 within one standard deviation?
Re:El Niño-like weather increases California precipitation i... by conception on Thursday July 06, 2017 @05:37PM (#14714167)
Re:El Niño-like weather increases California precipitation i... by triangleman on Friday July 07, 2017 @11:19AM (#14719004)
Not exactly what I was looking for, but it gives me something to work with. Thanks.
Re:El Niño-like weather increases California precipitation i... by wodenokoto on Friday July 07, 2017 @04:09PM (#14721644)
Climate change generally predicts 2 things: higher average temperatures and more extreme weather. It is called global warming due to the increase in average temperature. It is a mistake to think it is an increase in constant temperature.

Droughts and heavy rain fit those predictions perfectly.

Re:El Niño-like weather increases California precipitation i... by marcus_holmes on Thursday July 06, 2017 @07:53PM (#14714916)
We have the same thing in Australia. There were public announcements that the eastern states would be in permanent drought a few years ago. Then it flooded... so we have public statements that climate change will raise the number and severity of floods.

Politics != Science