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by yehi on Wednesday July 05, 2017 @11:15PM
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A lot of pro life people feel that actively killing sometime (they consider a fetus alive) is very bad and should be stopped. Where as keeping another person alive (not passively killing them) and happy is the individuals responsibility.
Think about the trolley problem. In one case you passively kill 4 people and in the other case you actively kill 1. Pro life people would probably choose to passively kill 4 while pro choice would probably choose to actively kill 1.
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by gech on Thursday July 06, 2017 @12:35AM
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A lot of people think letting people die is very bad too. And also a lot of people think there is a responsibility to not let others die.
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by yehi on Thursday July 06, 2017 @02:28AM
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Sure, that's what's great about democracy, we can vote for what the majority wants. I was responding to what cbanek wrote, as it seemed to me that cbanek did not correctly understand some of the pro-lifers viewpoints.
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by sumedh on Thursday July 06, 2017 @07:45AM
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> Sure, that's what's great about democracy, we can vote for what the majority wants.
Sometimes what the majority wants, is wrong.
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by thriftwy on Thursday July 06, 2017 @05:17AM
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You can't really vote majorities when human rights issues are involved.
Basically same thing with other property rights. Can't vote a person out of their belongings.
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by nandemo on Thursday July 06, 2017 @02:22AM
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Not trying to convince anyone, but: I believe abortion (with exceptions) is somewhere between manslaughter and murder morally, and therefore should be illegal.
Nothing to do with religion.
The "pro-life" label is silly. I don't believe people should have more children (I don't have any). Avoiding unwanted pregancies i.e. contraception is a solved problem. Contraception should be freely available as a matter of public health, just as vaccines are.
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by just4themoney on Thursday July 06, 2017 @03:14PM
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So what about rape and reproductive coercion? Or even cases when the woman gestating a fetus goes into a persistent vegetative state? Or even dies, like this woman - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Marlise_Mu%C3%B1oz ?
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by nandemo on Thursday July 06, 2017 @11:17PM
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Hence the qualifier "with exceptions". This could be elaborated but again, not trying to convince anyone, was just pointing out that being anti-abortion doesn't have to be based on religious beliefs.
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by EADGBE on Thursday July 06, 2017 @10:54AM
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You say that like contraception is 100% sure-fire way to avoid pregnancy.
Hate to burst your bubble, though.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_birth_control_me...
I hear a lot about how we shouldn't have abortions, but I worry more about all the kids and babies in foster care that aren't getting the love and attention they deserve. Another hugely underfunded system that is notorious for abuse.
I've got nothing against people being for life, and having kids. I'd suggest they go adopt a few kids rather than having them though. It's probably what Jesus would want you to do.
But I can't and won't prescribe for everyone or even me before I'd have to make such a choice. Life is strange, and complicated in so many ways. Ways so crazy people couldn't invent them if they tried. I personally don't think we need to make it harder on anyone.