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Re:I'm not a Woman in Tech by EGreg on Wednesday July 05, 2017 @11:08AM (#14702975)
Here is the thing. You can have private opinions but when you express them publicly, the larger the audience the larger the chance that someone can totally misinterpret / take out of context / take IN context but write a diatribe against / etc. what you say.

It could be someone who is outraged or someone who actually uses your words to further their ideological agenda against those who are outraged.

In short, the more people see what you say, the more chances that it can run away from under you and distract from your brand and its focus.

That is why Coke executives don't just tweet their personal views on topics, etc. and why politicians stay on message.

Anything you say publicly can and may be used against YOUR GOALS. And maybe against your character.

"Give me six lines written by the most honest man, and I will find something there to hang him. As quoted in Champlain's Dream‎ (2008) by David Hackett Fischer"

And with AI you can probably quote mine anyone like Richelou.

Sometimes, like Trump, the controversy helps attract media attention and you can find a core audience who flocks to you. Then you become a polarizing figure. If that's your way of getting famous, then the price you pay is people quote mining what you say later and you having to filter out people who are constantly lining up to debate you and take you down.

Trump has been able to sidestep the parsing of his words by not standing for anything and being so willing to change with the wind and just say so much random stuff, while at the same time saying what enough people want to hear that he totally polarized the country.

Re:I'm not a Woman in Tech by ams6110 on Wednesday July 05, 2017 @12:06PM (#14703571)
My personal view is that Trump is deliberately trolling the media, and they are taking the bait every time. There's also a "they can dish it out but can't take it" element to it.
Re:I'm not a Woman in Tech by EGreg on Wednesday July 05, 2017 @12:10PM (#14703621)
I've watched him and I think it is just too hard for him to control himself. He's got the political correctness and factual accuracy version of dyslexia.
Re:I'm not a Woman in Tech by WalterSear on Wednesday July 05, 2017 @12:37PM (#14703889)
IMHO, it's both. He can't help himself, and it works, so he keeps doing it. There's a reason his staff let him twitter.
Re:I'm not a Woman in Tech by Trill-I-Am on Wednesday July 05, 2017 @01:03PM (#14704132)
Most inside baseball politics places like Axios and Politico have reported that his staff has desperately tried to keep him off Twitter
Re:I'm not a Woman in Tech by FeepingCreature on Wednesday July 05, 2017 @02:04PM (#14704766)
It doesn't really matter if he's deliberately doing it as long as the effects work for him. A strategy doesn't have to be deliberate to be effective.
Re:I'm not a Woman in Tech by EGreg on Wednesday July 05, 2017 @01:11PM (#14704221)
I wanted to comment on a different factor on HN:

When I posted this, the upvotes went up to +3 points, and then steadily have been declining to -2 points.

No one has commented as to why they are downvoting or whatever. Fine. But I have noticed this on many of my other posts. And I wonder sometimes whether people actually have downvoting rings / clones on HN for topics/people/opinions! It seems to be free to downvote or upvote, so economically it would make sense that there are no repercussions.

Re:I'm not a Woman in Tech by FeepingCreature on Wednesday July 05, 2017 @02:05PM (#14704778)
To my knowledge, you can't downvote unless you have a certain amount of karma.
Re:I'm not a Woman in Tech by alphapapa on Wednesday July 05, 2017 @02:10PM (#14704815)
> It seems to be free to downvote or upvote, so economically it would make sense that there are no repercussions.

Since there is no cost to downvoting, it is cheaper in terms of time and effort to--anonymously!--censor opinions than to express them. It's doubly bad because, in order to acquire downvoting privileges, you must first express enough "correct" opinions, which makes the system self-selecting for certain views. It's a fundamentally broken system, because it incentivizes the wrong things, and it's why I stopped commenting here....oops.

Re:I'm not a Woman in Tech by zimpenfish on Thursday July 06, 2017 @12:08PM (#14711403)
> Since there is no cost to downvoting, it is cheaper in terms of time and effort to--anonymously!--censor opinions than to express them.

Sometimes it's cheaper in terms of time and effort to downvote rather than engage because the comment or commentator displays obvious* signs that a discussion will be fruitless.

* To me, of course; I only represent myself and my opinions.