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Re:Largest-ever study of controversial pesticides finds harm... by senorjazz on Monday July 03, 2017 @09:31AM (#14688087)
Why even is it under discussion. Just stop harming the bees.

When they are gone, so are we.

Bigger, more profitable yeilds is not what we should be focusing on. Saving the bees and humanity in the process is slightly more important imho

Re:Largest-ever study of controversial pesticides finds harm... by GuB-42 on Monday July 03, 2017 @07:02PM (#14692095)
I can't believe the idea that humanity depend on bees.

Sure, no more bees would be a very, very bad news. But humans are a pretty hardy specie. First, we are omnivores. Second, we have conquered the whole planet and live in huge numbers. And third, we are really smart. Besides cosmic scale events, I don't think of many scenarios that could damage humanity beyond recovery.

Re:Largest-ever study of controversial pesticides finds harm... by stinos on Tuesday July 04, 2017 @06:11AM (#14694830)
As far as i know, no, humanity won't disappear when bees would do (even though I have seen people claiming it). Sure, some plants might solely depend on bees for pollination, but there are also plants which don't and there are also other pollinators. See https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/30495/do-bees-p... for example:

    The authors of the FAO analysis concluded that the proportion of global food production
    attributable to animal pollination ranges from 5% in industrialized nations to 8% in the developing world.
That being said: it is pretty hard to predict waht would happen suppose there were no bees at all. I doubt it would be nice though.
Re:Largest-ever study of controversial pesticides finds harm... by pvaldes on Tuesday July 04, 2017 @06:18AM (#14694859)
Lets say that millions of people would die without bees then to put things into context.
Re:Largest-ever study of controversial pesticides finds harm... by sp332 on Monday July 03, 2017 @11:50AM (#14689139)
Pesticides are not enough to explain all the harm to bees. Fungus and parasites can destroy colonies too. We have to consider how to live without as many bees as we have now, because we don't know how to save all the bees.
Re:Largest-ever study of controversial pesticides finds harm... by sitkack on Monday July 03, 2017 @12:12PM (#14689340)
The right thing to do is it wait until all the conclusive evidence is in. It is anti-science to not think about the corporate bottom line.

It _may_ not be caused by the pesticide, changing or stopping the use of the pesticide could not be necessary and then we would have accidentally saved the world while having less profit.

Re:Largest-ever study of controversial pesticides finds harm... by sp332 on Monday July 03, 2017 @01:13PM (#14689833)
I get that this post is sarcastic/satirical, but it still feels like you're disagreeing with me?
Re:Largest-ever study of controversial pesticides finds harm... by sitkack on Monday July 03, 2017 @01:48PM (#14690096)
> Pesticides are not enough to explain all the harm to bees.

How do you know this? Because of the possibility (and it will always exist) of something else able to harm bees we should take no action?

> "we don't know how to save all the bees"

Is this forgone conclusion? Sounds like you are begging the question [1]

I am reminded of, http://i.imgur.com/couhw4k.jpg

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question

Re:Largest-ever study of controversial pesticides finds harm... by sp332 on Monday July 03, 2017 @01:50PM (#14690112)
I'm not saying the bees will definitely die off. I'm saying we don't know. We need to be prepared in case it happens.

Edit: I definitely didn't say that we should take no action.

Edit2: If you're asking "what else has been killing bees en masse", here's a list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colony_collapse_disorder

Re:Largest-ever study of controversial pesticides finds harm... by sitkack on Monday July 03, 2017 @03:44PM (#14690853)
I am sure we agree, just not the delivery.