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Re:Once a Model City, Hong Kong Is in Trouble by carapace on Thursday June 29, 2017 @10:11PM (#14668237)
I'm not sure I was replying directly to your comment either. I apologize.

I only recently learned about the whole "washing" of the "Incident" and it has really made me think.

I certainly agree with your rebuttal. I do not conflate the CCP with the Chinese people. And I'm aware that there are hundreds of millions of Chinese people who don't even live in China.

I also recognize that most of the members of the CCP are good people, the ones I call "scary" are a small minority. (Even if I don't agree with Communism.)

All things considered, if I'm thinking clearly, the most important thing I can recognize about China and the Chinese people is my own deep ignorance. :)

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some points:

In re: the Falun Gong, they have newspapers and occasional demonstrations where I live, and they manage to make a very sober and sobering account of it. If they are lying they are damn good at it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_harvesting_from_Falun_Go...

I don't know the truth of it myself, I hate to believe it.

> > What is the world gives someone the right to try to lie to a whole nation of billions of people? > No one. And no Chinese people or very few of them think CCP has the right either.

Which is reassuring in one sense but dreadful in another: the concept of the "Mandate of Heaven" is still valid, even if you take it just as a metaphor?

> Not sure what do you mean by "false reality".

I mean the attempt to pretend the Tiananmen Square Massacre didn't happen.

> No clue what "grotesque arrogance" refers to.

I mean that the folks responsible for the decision to try to change history are being arrogant, institutionally if not personally.

> Please, do not mix CCP and Chinese people. People do not align themselves 100% at all time with the government or the party.

I agree. But taken together, as a Nation, that's a lil schizophrenic. Part of the nation knowing about the massacre and part "knowing" that it was merely an "incident" or even a myth, that's very schizophrenic. Even if most of the people see through it, it's still unhealthy I think.

In re: Taiping Rebellion. When I read about it I was horrified. A vast horde hopped up on rebellion and bad religion and overrunning everything they could... And they call it a "righteous movement"..?

Anyhow, sorry for my ignorance.

Re:Once a Model City, Hong Kong Is in Trouble by justicezyx on Friday June 30, 2017 @11:44AM (#14671443)
Falun gong... Your wiki link has 4 external links and they are all YouTube videos... I am not sure there is any credibility in this form of data source...