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Re:TDD did not live up to expectations by briandear on Thursday June 29, 2017 @12:19PM (#14664457)
I disagree. I and others (such as Thoughtbot) often start by writing integration tests first. It’s known as outside-in testing.

TDD by started by with low level tests is just backwards. Outside-in helps you clarify the design from the perspective of the user.

https://robots.thoughtbot.com/testing-from-the-outsidein

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Re:TDD did not live up to expectations by ericgunnerson on Thursday June 29, 2017 @04:07PM (#14666460)
ATDD or design-driven development starts with integration tests first, and can be a great thing if written by the PO, as you can pretty much skip acceptance testing.

It addresses a different concern than unit testing, however.

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Re:TDD did not live up to expectations by dang on Thursday June 29, 2017 @04:58PM (#14666825)
(Your account was rate-limited—sorry, fixed now. It's an anti-abuse restriction on new accounts and we hate it when article authors get dinged by it!)
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Re:TDD did not live up to expectations by macca321 on Wednesday July 05, 2017 @03:02AM (#14700409)
This is the only comment to mention ATDD, and none mention BDD. :(
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