Re:Walmart banned alcohol and swearing from Jet's offices an...
by jxramos on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @02:25PM
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I didn't think it was a big deal until I spent significant time around swearers and non-swearers. There is just an ugliness in swearing both in the harsh consonants that intrinsically reflect the ugliness of the words and the general attitudes surrounding the spewing of the words. I remember a non-swearer who shared with me the misperception she often felt was falsely accused on her. This surrounded her use of other words to express frustration or pain or anger or what have you that the underlying emotions of those softer words were curse oriented, just sugar coated or something to that extent. She told me that was a perennial confusion with her, that it just was not the case, her emotions did not reflect the harsh swearing attitudes/content. Pretty interesting thought, I used to think that internally they had all the rage/etc but just repressed it or whatever. I learned apparently cursing does reflect an internal state of one's heart that could very much be lacking entirely in others.
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Re:Walmart banned alcohol and swearing from Jet's offices an...
by lbebber on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @02:38PM
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> There is just an ugliness in [...] the harsh consonants that intrinsically reflect the ugliness of the words
I won't comment on the rest of the post, but come on.
What is the ugliness in, say, "shit", that is not present in "shot" or "sheet"?
Re:Walmart banned alcohol and swearing from Jet's offices an...
by jxramos on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @03:01PM
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the logic here is "if curse then harsh", not "if harsh then curse", which raises an interesting question is there a soft curse word?
Come to think of it, it's like an emotional mapping to auditory expression, similar to this concept I heard about many years ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bouba/kiki_effect
Re:Walmart banned alcohol and swearing from Jet's offices an...
by porpoisemonkey on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @03:11PM
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> the logic here is "if curse then harsh", not "if harsh then curse", which raises an interesting question is there a soft curse word?
I don't mean this to be insulting but rather to answer your question. I think the word "asshole" has relatively soft sounds.
Re:Walmart banned alcohol and swearing from Jet's offices an...
by jxramos on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @03:14PM
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hilarious, good find! Just a few minutes ago, I tried an experiment to make a softword spoken as a curse word. It was kind of hard, at first I imagined screaming "banana" as a curse, but it just came off silly. Then I wondered if the silliness was because banana's are kind of silly and I was blurring the mental concept into the attempt, then I said "monana" to try to make gibberish so I couldn't lean on existing concepts. Fun exercise.
Re:Walmart banned alcohol and swearing from Jet's offices an...
by dwesr2648 on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @03:21PM
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I'd say soft curse words are the "clean" variants we've developed, like shoot, or fart. My Spanish roommate used to say miercoles, instead of the poop alternative.
Re:Walmart banned alcohol and swearing from Jet's offices an...
by mr_spothawk on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @06:59PM
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> is there a soft curse word?
i believe the common parlance is "alternative curse words"
Re:Walmart banned alcohol and swearing from Jet's offices an...
by jxramos on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @07:36PM
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I was speaking of phonetically soft, but I see what you're getting at with the interpretation that dwesr2648 shares with the "clean variants". Come to think of it this actually brings to memory all those safe for TV dubs they'd substitute for curse words. Those must surely be a direct application of "alternative curse words". After work I'mma try to see if anyone made a YouTube mashup for dubbed curse substitutions. I always got a kick out of those as a teenager.
Re:Walmart banned alcohol and swearing from Jet's offices an...
by jxramos on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @07:37PM
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hilarious, a search suggestion for "alternative curse words" was this "alternative curse words for moms who swear". I love it :-p
Re:Walmart banned alcohol and swearing from Jet's offices an...
by beeforpork on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @03:03PM
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Well, certainly not the phonetics.