Despite money and effort, homelessness in SF as bad as ever

Re:Despite money and effort, homelessness in SF as bad as ever by Mz on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @02:03PM (#14656604)

This is not true. Some homeless people have no money. Others have a social security check and nothing else or a military retirement check and nothing else. Some even have jobs. For people like me, if we could find a decent (not hell hole) place for $200, that would absolutely get us off the street.

I could afford about $400 a month in the near future. I am trying to find a way to get off the street now that my student loan is paid off and that frees up enough money where I could afford that much for shelter in the near future.

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Re:Despite money and effort, homelessness in SF as bad as ever by nickthemagicman on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @09:04PM (#14659942)

Not trying to be critical or anything just curious. Why not get like a Van with a 300 dollar note? At least you have shelter and can park near city services.

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Re:Despite money and effort, homelessness in SF as bad as ever by Mz on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @09:07PM (#14659960)

I'm sure you mean well, but one-off comments from internet strangers are not going to solve my problems. I am solving them. It is just much slower than I would like. I did not comment on my situation in order to solicit advice. I did so in order to make it clear what the basis of my opinions are.

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Re:Despite money and effort, homelessness in SF as bad as ever by nickthemagicman on Thursday June 29, 2017 @07:36PM (#14667689)

No man I hear you about the homeless who have potential like yourself. Homelessness is a huge trap. I mean I feel like simply providing showers and some sort of basic amenities to help the homeless who are trying to work their way out of it would help enourmously.

But these homeless programs that just keep the homeless subsisting are better than nothing but sill aren't helping the ones who could escape.

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Re:Despite money and effort, homelessness in SF as bad as ever by Mz on Thursday June 29, 2017 @07:39PM (#14667706)

I only went to homeless services when I was truly destitute for basically the first six months. If I can find another solution, I do. Most homeless services are incredibly crappy and often counterproductive.

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Re:Despite money and effort, homelessness in SF as bad as ever by nickthemagicman on Friday June 30, 2017 @12:02PM (#14671578)

I'm with you. I've been homeless before. I would never use a shelter. But if there had been free showers I would have used them lol. I had to use the shower bus riding around SF. Also, if there had been free toothpaste and soap that would have been nice.

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Re:Despite money and effort, homelessness in SF as bad as ever by Mz on Friday June 30, 2017 @01:21PM (#14672188)

Sorry, I mistook your original query. It was amongst a bunch of such comments and some seemed to not be getting made in good faith.

The super short version is that I don't want to live in a van because I no longer drive due to my medical condition. There are other factors, but that's a big one.

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Re:Despite money and effort, homelessness in SF as bad as ever by dang on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @04:36PM (#14658116)

Since you used the word respectful I'll assume that your intent was respectful, but please don't post comments like this to HN.

Unsolicited personal commentary or life advice quickly crosses into incivility. Your comment is way into the red on that. Even if you don't mean such comments as personal attacks, they easily read like it—because of the underlying assumption that you know better about someone else's life than they do—and will almost certainly will land that way with the person(s) whose life you're prescribing. That's bad and leads to worse, so we should all just not do it.

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