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Re:Ubuntu Systemd Vulnerability by sunseb on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @08:10AM (#14653389)
Let's face it: systemd is a bad design... The solution I found: FreeBSD and OpenBSD !
Re:Ubuntu Systemd Vulnerability by digi_owl on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @08:42AM (#14653550)
There are Linux distros that still have not succumbed.
Re:Ubuntu Systemd Vulnerability by dijit on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @11:54AM (#14655197)
None that I would use in production (as a sysadmin)
Re:Ubuntu Systemd Vulnerability by mobilethrow on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @03:43PM (#14657564)
I've been toying with GuixSD recently and really love the immutable system configurations.

There are some caveats, but I would not mind using it on production servers. Sadly I haven't been able to convince my colleagues yet.

Re:Ubuntu Systemd Vulnerability by _ZeD_ on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @12:47PM (#14655730)
Not even a slackware?
Re:Ubuntu Systemd Vulnerability by teksimian on Thursday June 29, 2017 @09:50AM (#14663272)
maybe if they had package dependencies sorted out. they didnt last time i checked.
Re:Ubuntu Systemd Vulnerability by digi_owl on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @03:25PM (#14657406)
Could have sworn that i have seen companies opt for Gentoo in production, because they could tailor the end result specifically to their needs...
Re:Ubuntu Systemd Vulnerability by na85 on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @12:28PM (#14655522)
Slackware ?
Re:Ubuntu Systemd Vulnerability by teksimian on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @02:08PM (#14656655)
i believe there's a debian fork around that doesnt have systemd... https://devuan.org/
Re:Ubuntu Systemd Vulnerability by Mic92 on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @09:30AM (#14653880)
But does not the FreeBSD project even more focus on memory unsafe languages (C) and is more monolithic then Linux distribution in general (userspace must match kernel).
Re:Ubuntu Systemd Vulnerability by talideon on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @10:04AM (#14654176)
No more so than a Linux distro does.

With the latter, you're referring to base. FreeBSD isn't really any more monolithic than your average distro in that regard though; it's just that with some services, the userland, and the like it (historically) made sense to maintain with particular stable versions of the kernel. Base is being slimmed down where possible though: bind has been replaced with unbound, dma is likely going to replace sendmail in FreeBSD 11, IIRC, and now that pkgng is proven, the process of packaging the base system should be complete for FreeBSD 12, which will allow freebsd-update to be (mostly) replaced.

Re:Ubuntu Systemd Vulnerability by jlg23 on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @09:57AM (#14654099)
I assume the comment you are responding to was about the init-system and in extension to the much more straight forward design and implementation of the overall system.

FreeBSD is, like all(?) other Unices written in C, as is most of the userland.

> userspace must match kernel

Just as far as it is true for Linux. If the interfaces don't change, the userspace tools will happily talk with any kernel. In now 19 years of FreeBSD usage on all my servers and on my laptop I ran into problems caused by a mismatch kernel<->userspace maybe 3 times. OTOH, the comparison is unfair with BSD-boxes reaching uptimes > 1 year easily.

Re:Ubuntu Systemd Vulnerability by na85 on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @12:28PM (#14655519)
Perhaps, but there's no systemd, which is a huge win.
Re:Ubuntu Systemd Vulnerability by fao_ on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @08:38AM (#14653539)
You might like suckless.org