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Re:Reduce your startup's payroll taxes through the new Feder... by jliptzin on Tuesday June 27, 2017 @07:17PM (#14650452)
Let's say I pay a programmer to develop that new game engine...why wouldn't I just deduct the expense of paying the developer against my revenue? Why would I even need to look into this tax credit? The only companies I see this benefitting are those with no or negative income, but have high payroll taxes, which doesn't seem to me to be a lot of companies out there.
Re:Reduce your startup's payroll taxes through the new Feder... by gamblor956 on Tuesday June 27, 2017 @07:31PM (#14650541)
Deduction applies to pre-tax income, and is based on your tax rate. If, for example, you have a deduction for $100, and your effective tax rate is 20%, your tax liability is reduced by $20. Deductions also generally don't carry over if unusuable.

A credit applies against your tax liability. So if you have a tax credit for $100, your tax liability is reduced by $100. Credits generally do carry over to future years to the extent unusable in the current year.

Whether a credit is preferable to a deduction depends on the taxpayer's tax situation, including whether they would be able to make use of carried-over credits in future years.

Edit: in a previous comment I said R&D credits aren't available if you don't have positive income. That's not strictly true. R&D credits only apply against actual tax liabilities, but if you don't have any taxable income the unused credits would carry over into a future year for potential use.

Re:Reduce your startup's payroll taxes through the new Feder... by Dwolb on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @07:30AM (#14653216)
This credit is unique in that it can be used against federal payroll taxes. i.e. most companies (even if unprofitable) can realize a cash benefit immediately
Re:Reduce your startup's payroll taxes through the new Feder... by jliptzin on Tuesday June 27, 2017 @08:14PM (#14650749)
Thanks!
Re:Reduce your startup's payroll taxes through the new Feder... by fooey on Tuesday June 27, 2017 @07:20PM (#14650471)
I would bet practically all software startups fall into the category of having negative income and high payroll taxes.
Re:Reduce your startup's payroll taxes through the new Feder... by sokoloff on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @08:11AM (#14653399)
In addition to the other posts, if your developer is creating a capital asset (software/IP with a useful life beyond the current tax year), you may not be able to expense 100% of their cost.

It's just like if you hire a builder to make you a rental property. You can't deduct 100% of the costs of that house in the year it's built.