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Re:A Slow-Motion Trainwreck Facing the Meal-Kit Industry by pm90 on Tuesday June 27, 2017 @07:00PM (#14650340)
> I wouldn't automatically grant that.

While this deserves qualifications, most of the time restaurant food is simply not as hygienic as meals prepared at home. And its not some deliberate plan to make it so. Despite their best efforts, a somewhat large scale food establishment just allows a lot more opportunities for food contamination. And I say this as a person who eats out everyday (Lunch out, dinner and supper at home).

The only place I can see that really escapes from this is the high end restaurants. Usually they don't have to rely on cost saving measures, and have well developed supply chains for obtaining fresh ingredients and keeping them from contamination. But I don't think most of the people here could afford or want to eat at such a place regularly.

Re:A Slow-Motion Trainwreck Facing the Meal-Kit Industry by kinkrtyavimoodh on Tuesday June 27, 2017 @07:28PM (#14650525)
I think your key concern with restaurant food should be nutrition, not hygiene. Hygiene in restaurants is typically good enough to not be much of a problem (and the human body is resilient enough to take a bit of occasional rough treatment).

But you don't know how much sugar, fat, or just empty calories are being put in your food to make it just a little more presentable or appetizing. That is what you have better control over when you cook yourself.

Re:A Slow-Motion Trainwreck Facing the Meal-Kit Industry by resf on Tuesday June 27, 2017 @08:54PM (#14650900)
There's nothing wrong with sugar when eaten as part of a meal, it's when people down Coca Cola on an empty stomach that there's a problem. And fat is actually essential to life.

At the risk of stating the obvious, when you eat a meal, all of it goes to the same place. So as long as the meal as a whole provides sufficient nutrition (and if you are eating a varied diet then it absolutely will do), no part of it can be described as "empty calories".

Re:A Slow-Motion Trainwreck Facing the Meal-Kit Industry by kinkrtyavimoodh on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @01:44AM (#14651963)
Continuing the trend of stating the obvious, it is absolutely possible to load food with too much sugar or fat that offers practically no marginal nutritional value. I say marginal because of course to a starving person the calories brought in by sugar are valuable, but probably not to a person who is generally able to get their calories from a wide range of sources and in general wants to control their caloric intake.

Empty calories is not a moral judgment. It is a statement of fact.

Re:A Slow-Motion Trainwreck Facing the Meal-Kit Industry by illumin8 on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @07:16PM (#14659425)
Bingo... I can't count how many restaurant meals I've eaten that could have been 500 calories, but have been unnecessarily inflated to 1500-2000 calories by adding butter/sugar/fat to improve the taste. I'm not saying fat is bad for you - far from it - good fats like avocado and olive oil are essential, but you can definitely tell that some restaurants (especially chains) have perfected the unhealthy sugar/fat/salt triad in order to maximize taste - this can't be good for you to eat every meal... (occasionally, go for it)
Re:A Slow-Motion Trainwreck Facing the Meal-Kit Industry by notyourday on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @07:16AM (#14653154)
It is actually amazing that we have not yet freak outs in the media from cases of food poisoning of the meal at home services. Someone touched every single thing in every single unit that a customer receives. If you got five twigs of cilantro, then someone touched each one of those five twigs. If you have received six pepper corns of some fancy pepper, someone making minimum wage touched every single one of them.

This is a massive contamination incident waiting to happen.

Re:A Slow-Motion Trainwreck Facing the Meal-Kit Industry by upvotinglurker on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @08:45AM (#14653567)
Right. If the definition of "healthy" is "unlikely to be contaminated with food poisoning agents[0]," then meal prep services would seem as bad or worse than restaurant meals. They are "prepared at home" only for the last few steps, the food has been handled extensively by meal prep service employees, and has been shipped and possibly left at a delivery location for an unknown period of time in warm weather (I understand it is shipped in an insulated container, but the temperature control still must be less reliable than an actual refrigerator).

[0]Though I think GP and most others in this thread are defining "healthy" as matching their preferred fat/carb/salt/weight-control etc. parameters, and aren't even thinking about food poisoning.

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Re:A Slow-Motion Trainwreck Facing the Meal-Kit Industry by criddell on Tuesday June 27, 2017 @07:34PM (#14650553)
> The only place I can see that really escapes from this is the high end restaurants.

Actually, fast food restaurants have some of the best food practices. I'd feel much safer eating at some random McDonald's than some Mom-n-Pop diner.

Re:A Slow-Motion Trainwreck Facing the Meal-Kit Industry by bgribble on Tuesday June 27, 2017 @09:02PM (#14650930)
It's well-known among low budget international travelers (and those that go well off the beaten path) that when s--t gets sketchy you just eat what's deep-fried. Hot enough to fry is hot enough to sterilize. Mickey D is not high culture but it's probably safe wherever you find it.
Re:A Slow-Motion Trainwreck Facing the Meal-Kit Industry by just4themoney on Tuesday June 27, 2017 @09:23PM (#14651017)
Right - McDonalds has very specific corporate policies relating to food safety as well as a cleaning schedules, holding times, and the like. At least that's how it was when I worked at Popeyes, I assume that most fast food chains will be similar.
Re:A Slow-Motion Trainwreck Facing the Meal-Kit Industry by maxerickson on Tuesday June 27, 2017 @08:58PM (#14650916)
I think I'd trust the random restaurant over the random person that hasn't cooked a whole lot.

I mean, even some little diner sort of has a huge incentive not to make people sick, even if they don't have a health inspector watching over them.

Re:A Slow-Motion Trainwreck Facing the Meal-Kit Industry by knodi123 on Thursday June 29, 2017 @07:20PM (#14667617)
> most of the time restaurant food is simply not as hygienic as meals prepared at home

I've become much more conscious of this lately. I called the health inspector to report a restaurant for the first time this month, and did it again just a week ago.