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Re:Think Twice Before Ordering Coffee or Tea on a Plane by dragon_greens on Friday June 23, 2017 @12:21PM (#14620306)
Simply heating does not kill all bacteria magically. That would require boiling for some time and I doubt that happens in-flight.
Re:Think Twice Before Ordering Coffee or Tea on a Plane by sfeng on Friday June 23, 2017 @12:28PM (#14620384)
Heat absolutely does kill bacteria. Heating water for just a few minutes at 60C will kill e. coli, 70C will kill it instantly. Coffee is brewed at 90-100C.

[1] https://academic.oup.com/jtm/article-pdf/3/1/11/5107757/jtm3...

Re:Think Twice Before Ordering Coffee or Tea on a Plane by leephillips on Friday June 23, 2017 @12:46PM (#14620562)
Yeah, but not "magically".
Re:Think Twice Before Ordering Coffee or Tea on a Plane by rjsw on Friday June 23, 2017 @12:44PM (#14620538)
Airplanes are not pressurized to sea level though, water boils at lower temperatures at altitude.
Re:Think Twice Before Ordering Coffee or Tea on a Plane by spiznnx on Friday June 23, 2017 @12:47PM (#14620567)
On airplanes, pressure is equivalent to about 2000m ASL, at which water boils at 93.4 °C
Re:Think Twice Before Ordering Coffee or Tea on a Plane by rjsw on Friday June 23, 2017 @02:27PM (#14621465)
There are several ski resorts at 2000m, you notice the difference in coffee temperature from sea level.
Re:Think Twice Before Ordering Coffee or Tea on a Plane by elif on Friday June 23, 2017 @12:28PM (#14620383)
yea wilderness survival says full boil for at least 3 minutes, more in higher altitude. While shopping for an on-demand hot water tap, I couldn't find a single one that even went up to boiling temperature, so my hunch is that airplanes don't even boil for a second.
Re:Think Twice Before Ordering Coffee or Tea on a Plane by benjohnson on Friday June 23, 2017 @03:55PM (#14622247)
The 3 minutes idea is to kill anything that may be deeply imbedded the bits of wood, leaves, and other detritus suspended in the water.

It's generally considered paranoid overkill when you consider the water will take a while to cool - it will stay in the "kill everything" temperature for quite a while in the process.

https://besurvival.com/guides/how-long-should-you-boil-water

Re:Think Twice Before Ordering Coffee or Tea on a Plane by refurb on Friday June 23, 2017 @12:34PM (#14620441)
It depends on what you're trying to kill. Some bacteria perish quickly at less-than-boiling temperatures. In the wild, you have spores and other hardy organisms that require a lot more heat and time to kill.
Re:Think Twice Before Ordering Coffee or Tea on a Plane by joerickard on Friday June 23, 2017 @12:25PM (#14620352)
Also, 'boiling' at the cabin pressure is not quite normal boiling.
Re:Think Twice Before Ordering Coffee or Tea on a Plane by jcranmer on Friday June 23, 2017 @12:37PM (#14620474)
The safe temperature for killing bacteria is about 140°F or 60°C. To get water to boil at that low a temperature requires about ⅕ atmospheric pressure, or roughly the atmospheric pressure outside the aircraft.