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Re:Why is the Internet so Slow? by threepipeproblm on Friday June 23, 2017 @05:27AM (#14617949)
You're saying that achieving 2.7% of the theoretical efficiency is good?

Many car engines have an efficiency of around 20% for example, as compared to the maximum theoretical efficiency of 67%. If car engines performed only well enough to meet your standard of amazingness, your gas costs would be 7 or 8 times higher. Or if you used a modern Toyota engine for comparison, something like 14 times higher.

Obviously I took an example from a different sphere for comparison... if you really find this to be an astonishing result can you elaborate?

Re:Why is the Internet so Slow? by lucozade on Friday June 23, 2017 @06:14AM (#14618102)
Not to belittle the internal combustion engine but that's just the theoretical efficiency of chemical combustion. It's a local maximum. That's tiny compared to the global maximum energy available from the same amount of fuel.

As a trite comparison, it's a similar to arguing the theoretical maximum speed that a person can run. Interesting, but doesn't tell you anything about the maximum speed that a person can move.

The speed of light in a vacuum, though, is qualitatively different. It's not a local maximum, it's the global maximum.

Anyway, I reserve the right to be impressed. I spend enough of my life being jaded and cynical. Sometimes I see things like this and it makes me think about stuff that I take for granted.

Re:Why is the Internet so Slow? by the8472 on Friday June 23, 2017 @06:00AM (#14618058)
Your car is not operating at 20% efficiency of theoretical limits if you take the whole energy pipeline into account. You know... fusion, sunlight, plankton, oil, refining, combustion, mechanical energy. On the other hand speed-of-light to actual ping times is an end-to-end efficiency calculation. Plankton in particular is terrible at converting energy.

sun -> mj-PV -> battery -> electric motors run circles around those.

Re:Why is the Internet so Slow? by krallja on Friday June 23, 2017 @09:26AM (#14618975)
> Plankton in particular is terrible at converting energy.

Says the person who can't even photosynthesize!

Re:Why is the Internet so Slow? by arethuza on Friday June 23, 2017 @05:51AM (#14618027)
On the other hand how well are we doing when it comes to achieving the maximum theoretical speed for interstellar spacecraft? :-)
Re:Why is the Internet so Slow? by amadvance on Friday June 23, 2017 @05:51AM (#14618028)
You car is million times slower than the speed of light :)
Re:Why is the Internet so Slow? by greydius on Friday June 23, 2017 @06:06AM (#14618077)
10 million. Light: 300000 km/sec, car: 0.03 km/sec
Re:Why is the Internet so Slow? by amadvance on Friday June 23, 2017 @06:12AM (#14618092)
My car is a lot faster than 108 km/h (0.03 km/sec) :)
Re:Why is the Internet so Slow? by moemoeg on Friday June 23, 2017 @06:16AM (#14618106)
In the context of the speed of light, it really isn't.
Re:Why is the Internet so Slow? by amadvance on Friday June 23, 2017 @06:28AM (#14618154)
greydius corrected me asserting that the factor between ligth speed and car speed is 10 millions, and not one million as I said.

But in true there are production cars that pass 430 km/h, resulting in a factor of about 2.5 millions. A lot less than 10 millions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Production_car_speed_record

Re:Why is the Internet so Slow? by pixl97 on Friday June 23, 2017 @11:48AM (#14620008)
You should not compare the fastest car speed, but the average car speed, which for this argument would probably be closer to 200km/h. That puts it in a factor of 5 million, which is within one order of magnitude of the original guess.