Medium and the Scourge of Persistent Sharing Bars

Re:Medium and the Scourge of Persistent Sharing Bars by leggomylibro on Monday June 19, 2017 @11:09PM (#14591936)

That's interesting, because I regularly browse with a LOT of Chrome tabs open. Like, 50-200. There'll be a window with a bunch of datasheets I'm intending to process into schematics (eventually,) a handful of articles, some in-progress shopping carts, a few resources that I might want to read more closely at some point in the near future...

Really, deciding when to close tabs and what to close is kind of an organic process. I am running ChromeOS on ARM, though, so that may be a bit more optimized for having lots of Chrome tabs open. On x86/64, I'd probably have to use Firefox for that kind of nonsense.

But incidentally, I love ChromeOS on ARM. Very energy-efficient, there are some solid models in that rare and coveted 10-11.6" size range, now it has (beta) Android apps, and in dev mode you can pop a full Linux chroot onto it with an extension that lets you surface X sessions to a Chrome tab. Absolutely fantastic, until you run into a closed-source x86/64 binary.

Also, since I have to sync everything to a repository or cloud storage or physical media fairly frequently to use a more fully-functioned machine, it also means that if I lose it or it breaks or I have to evacuate and leave it behind or something, nbd. Data's still there, and they're only like $2-300 anyways - not bad for a secondary computer.

Hey, Apple - you know that 12" Macbook of yours? The one with a laughable single port? Maybe make an ARM version with a popular hackable core chip; like a newer Allwinner A10 or something. You could charge $400-500, easy.

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Re:Medium and the Scourge of Persistent Sharing Bars by tomduncalf on Tuesday June 20, 2017 @06:56AM (#14593499)

"Maybe make an ARM version with a popular hackable core chip; like a newer Allwinner A10 or something. You could charge $400-500, easy."

I think you may have misunderstood Apple's target market ;)

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Re:Medium and the Scourge of Persistent Sharing Bars by leggomylibro on Tuesday June 20, 2017 @12:24PM (#14595934)

I feel like Apple's target market should be selling solid computer devices that can fetch a high markup and further a brand of exquisite form/functionality, but they have been away from that in favor of a "squeezing-the-walled-garden" model lately, huh?

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Re:Medium and the Scourge of Persistent Sharing Bars by keithpeter on Tuesday June 20, 2017 @06:13AM (#14593341)

"But incidentally, I love ChromeOS on ARM. Very energy-efficient, there are some solid models in that rare and coveted 10-11.6" size range,..."

Keyboards that don't bend? What makes do you recommend?

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Re:Medium and the Scourge of Persistent Sharing Bars by leggomylibro on Tuesday June 20, 2017 @12:32PM (#14596011)

I like the laptop versions that have screens which can fold around 360 degrees to act like tablets. The keyboard deactivates and you get an Android-style onscreen one when you do, but I think some people don't like that because it does mean that your screen will be fingerprint-y. But personally, I also like having a touch screen, especially since a bunch of Android apps run natively now.

I have the C100 Flip right now, which I like a lot. It has a Cortex-A17 which doesn't have trouble running a bunch of tools I use like KiCAD, Arduino, etc. but I wouldn't use it for 3D modeling or other intensive tasks. The resolution is also a bit low at 1280x800.

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Re:Medium and the Scourge of Persistent Sharing Bars by daveguy on Monday June 19, 2017 @10:50PM (#14591874)

ublock origin + privacy badger and you will have much less usage. I get 10x10 tabs (10 tabs in 10 windows) with few problems.

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Re:Medium and the Scourge of Persistent Sharing Bars by Jedd on Monday June 19, 2017 @11:01PM (#14591921)

Agreed.

Ublock Origin's right-click / Block Element (then optional selection process) is an absolute boon to forever hide these artefacts.

Every now and then I'll try reading something on mobile chrome, or a friend's machine, and realise how annoying much of the web is for many people.

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Re:Medium and the Scourge of Persistent Sharing Bars by SomeStupidPoint on Tuesday June 20, 2017 @12:49AM (#14592271)

I had to turn off JS on mobile chrome for almost all websites, because they just wouldn't run on my phone.

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Re:Medium and the Scourge of Persistent Sharing Bars by JoshMnem on Tuesday June 20, 2017 @04:24AM (#14592938)

Firefox for Android -- you can install extensions to block extra JS.

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Re:Medium and the Scourge of Persistent Sharing Bars by ryandrake on Monday June 19, 2017 @10:59PM (#14591913)

It should be unacceptable that you have to install plug-ins and disable "features" in order to configure your browser to not be actively destroying the web browsing experience--which is the only experience you expect out of a web browser. Browser vendors need to take some responsibility too.

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Re:Medium and the Scourge of Persistent Sharing Bars by altern8tif on Monday June 19, 2017 @11:35PM (#14592013)

Talking about uBlock Origin and Medium, the blocked requests on Medium pages always seem to increase at a regular interval.

Seems like they use some kind of tracker that "polls" user activity on the page. I suspect that's why Chrome seems to use more CPU/RAM when I've got more Medium pages opened.

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Re:Medium and the Scourge of Persistent Sharing Bars by michaelbrooks on Tuesday June 20, 2017 @03:59AM (#14592854)

That's all well and good until you get those annoying modals that say something like "We see you are using an adblocker, please disable it to continue".

Some sites you can easily dismiss and they'll let you browse after (which makes the modal pointless) and other sites won't let you past unless you disable adblocking for that site.

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Re:Medium and the Scourge of Persistent Sharing Bars by wilkystyle on Tuesday June 20, 2017 @12:05PM (#14595727)

I've had somewhat-good results by just disabling Javascript entirely for domains like that.

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Re:Medium and the Scourge of Persistent Sharing Bars by nine_k on Monday June 19, 2017 @11:07PM (#14591931)

uMatrix if you want detailed control.

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Re:Medium and the Scourge of Persistent Sharing Bars by nine_k on Monday June 19, 2017 @11:06PM (#14591928)

You open web sites with free content that try to make money off you.

They definitely use your attention and collect as detailed profiles of you as possible. But you also pay with your CPU, RAM, and electricity: they'll gladly use as much of it for their purposes as possible.

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Re:Medium and the Scourge of Persistent Sharing Bars by fleetingmoments on Tuesday June 20, 2017 @06:41AM (#14593440)

I use a Chrome plugin called The Great Suspender, it makes a huge difference by 'suspending' all tabs that were not accessed in the past x minutes. You can set it up so it doesn't suspend certain tabs based on URL (Gmail, Drive and Calender for me) It helps a lot on my Macbook Pro with only 8GB.

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Re:Medium and the Scourge of Persistent Sharing Bars by skadamat on Monday June 19, 2017 @11:58PM (#14592101)

I've switched to Brave almost exclusively because of this (which has it's own downsides for sure)

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Re:Medium and the Scourge of Persistent Sharing Bars by FridgeSeal on Tuesday June 20, 2017 @04:03AM (#14592869)

I've recently switched to Brave on my phone, I've got Firefox on the as well, but I prefer the UI/UX of Chrome/Brave.

What are the downsides I should know about?

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