The secret negotiations behind the Hong Kong handover

Re:The secret negotiations behind the Hong Kong handover by zie on Monday June 19, 2017 @05:40PM (#14590679)

The end of what autonomy HK currently enjoyes expires in 2047. Will be interesting to see what happens then. China has always been very long-term thinking oriented, much different than our western system(s) of government, that it has an expiry I think says a lot about China's long-term view.

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Re:The secret negotiations behind the Hong Kong handover by Analemma_ on Monday June 19, 2017 @08:25PM (#14591393)

My guess is nothing: by 2047, the erosion of Hong Kong's autonomy and democracy will have progressed to the point where it's indistinguishable from China anyway, so nothing will have to change.

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Re:The secret negotiations behind the Hong Kong handover by teknologist on Tuesday June 20, 2017 @04:00AM (#14592860)

I see janitors (called ayis here in China) walking around the office gambling their life savings on stock trading apps. Long term planning at work?

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Re:The secret negotiations behind the Hong Kong handover by ihaveajob on Monday June 19, 2017 @06:57PM (#14591052)

I'll take politicians who know they're up for periodic reelection over what they have in China any time.

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Re:The secret negotiations behind the Hong Kong handover by r00fus on Monday June 19, 2017 @07:24PM (#14591166)

The problem is that the lobbyists and civil servants do not have any re-election or term limits.

So you have replaceable pols who are a facade to the real influence being brokered by chiefs of staff, head lobbyists - and the distinction between the lobbyists and civil staff is blurred at best.

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Re:The secret negotiations behind the Hong Kong handover by icebraining on Tuesday June 20, 2017 @03:37PM (#14597804)

Bernard: The Department of Employment lobbies for the TUC, whereas the Department of Industry lobbies for the employers. It's rather a nice balance. Energy lobbies for the oil companies, Defence lobbies for the armed forces, the Home Office lobbies for the police and so on.

Hacker: So the whole system is designed to stop the Cabinet from carrying out its policies?

Bernard: Well, somebody's got to.

-- Yes, Minister

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