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Re:Casper, Mattress Maker, Raises $170M and Plans I.P.O by accountyaccount on Sunday June 18, 2017 @10:38PM (#14584271)
good luck, there are like 10 clones out there already
Re:Casper, Mattress Maker, Raises $170M and Plans I.P.O by timr on Sunday June 18, 2017 @11:29PM (#14584463)
Casper itself is a clone. There were/are at least two other foam mattress companies in San Francisco alone selling the same thing years before Casper existed.
Re:Casper, Mattress Maker, Raises $170M and Plans I.P.O by peterkshultz on Sunday June 18, 2017 @11:05PM (#14584366)
"It's exceptionally rare for startups to be killed by competitors—so rare that you can almost discount the possibility."

- Paul Graham (http://paulgraham.com/startupideas.html)

Re:Casper, Mattress Maker, Raises $170M and Plans I.P.O by anonymoose111 on Monday June 19, 2017 @12:24AM (#14584622)
it's a little different when mattresses are essentially a homogeneous good
Re:Casper, Mattress Maker, Raises $170M and Plans I.P.O by seppin on Monday June 19, 2017 @11:27AM (#14587648)
branding, marketing, etc.
Re:Casper, Mattress Maker, Raises $170M and Plans I.P.O by Pulcinella on Sunday June 18, 2017 @11:12PM (#14584395)
Yes we all remember when Facebook failed to defeat MySpace...
Re:Casper, Mattress Maker, Raises $170M and Plans I.P.O by adamnemecek on Sunday June 18, 2017 @11:31PM (#14584471)
The quote is right. The only enemy of your startup is yourself. MySpace fucked up in so many ways that it's surprising that they managed to remain somewhat relevant until around ~2010 or so.
Re:Casper, Mattress Maker, Raises $170M and Plans I.P.O by ericd on Sunday June 18, 2017 @11:31PM (#14584472)
The point is that you're very unlikely to get to that spot, and you don't have to think about that in the beginning. And even then, if you focus on your own company and execute well, you generally don't have to worry about your competitors - it's yours to lose.
Re:Casper, Mattress Maker, Raises $170M and Plans I.P.O by wmichelin on Sunday June 18, 2017 @11:12PM (#14584398)
One example is not indicative of the larger picture
Re:Casper, Mattress Maker, Raises $170M and Plans I.P.O by Pulcinella on Sunday June 18, 2017 @11:19PM (#14584425)
App.net lost to Twitter. Netscape lost to Microsoft. Yahoo lost to Google. Ouya lost to Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo. Coin lost to existing payment cards...
Re:Casper, Mattress Maker, Raises $170M and Plans I.P.O by lumisota on Sunday June 18, 2017 @11:59PM (#14584560)
The sentence that follows the quote is "So unless you discover a competitor with the sort of lock-in that would prevent users from choosing you, don't discard the idea.". Most of the winners in the examples you gave had insurmountable lock-in (network effects, etc).
Re:Casper, Mattress Maker, Raises $170M and Plans I.P.O by gruturo on Monday June 19, 2017 @03:34AM (#14585187)
App.net lost to itself. I know of exactly one person who decided to pay money, and it's my friend who'd buy/try anything once.

Try to charge money in a space that's free, in return for..... I don't really know tbh, is a recipe for suicide. It may have worked in the 2 weeks of the novelty effect, and that's it.

Re:Casper, Mattress Maker, Raises $170M and Plans I.P.O by visakanv on Monday June 19, 2017 @04:43AM (#14585427)
There was a period of time where I used both MySpace and Facebook, and preferred MySpace – but the user experience kept getting shittier, it kept getting laggier, spammier... MySpace killed itself
Re:Casper, Mattress Maker, Raises $170M and Plans I.P.O by paulcole on Sunday June 18, 2017 @11:14PM (#14584407)
Also how MySpace failed to defeat Friendster.
Re:Casper, Mattress Maker, Raises $170M and Plans I.P.O by WillPostForFood on Monday June 19, 2017 @05:13AM (#14585545)
Did you listen to the recent Startup podcast series on Friendster? The folks at Friendster definitely saw MySpace as one of the nails in their coffin.
Re:Casper, Mattress Maker, Raises $170M and Plans I.P.O by mccolin on Sunday June 18, 2017 @10:48PM (#14584302)
Does that not prove the market?
Re:Casper, Mattress Maker, Raises $170M and Plans I.P.O by accountyaccount on Monday June 19, 2017 @09:46AM (#14586858)
It proves there's nothing special about Casper — their market sways entirely amongst competitors by who has the best deal on an almost identical product.

It's like selling entry-level Windows laptops. The average consumer doesn't give a shit.