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Re:Attempt to Reverse a $55 Million Ether Heist by yorwba on Sunday June 18, 2017 @04:53AM (#14579711)
IANAL, but here is how I would argue:

The DAO was created with the intention to allocate its funds according to a certain voting scheme, with everyone's power determined by the number of tokens they held. But the program did not correctly implement this intention, and the DAO hack exploited the difference to bring the funds under control of the attacker. This most likely violated the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, and was thus illegal.

Re:Attempt to Reverse a $55 Million Ether Heist by ghaff on Sunday June 18, 2017 @05:31AM (#14579823)
Which is one of the issues with smart contracts. Yes, written contracts are the contract in the physical world. And sometimes people get outlawyered or just plain screw up and lose money because of circumstances that they didn't foresee. But when things come to court, there's still generally some oversight usually provided through the court system or mediators to put the brakes on clearly absurd and/or unfair results. Which is generally considered a positive thing.
Re:Attempt to Reverse a $55 Million Ether Heist by vkreso on Sunday June 18, 2017 @07:11AM (#14580139)
Of course! Customs and other legal (based on moral) norms are basically the primary source of law or of its interpretation. Human systems based on rigid, or even utopian (that is totalitarian in practice) rules simply cannot handle the complexity of the real world. The system may seem good and functional at first but with the first problem which would because of the nature of complexity and chaotic system dynamics of human interactions inevitably happen, the system would crash (or in this case, get forked) since it would not offer any flexibility.

Without getting too abstract, even traffic lights or zebras, from the perspective of a pedesetrian, (as an example of a simple system) would be a horrendous and extremely time consuming experience if its rules were enforced by the letter. Imagine if you could >only< pass the road accross the zebras...

Human made systems need to be imperfect and the rules need to be flexible or the system will fail.

Re:Attempt to Reverse a $55 Million Ether Heist by Zarath on Sunday June 18, 2017 @05:04AM (#14579743)
As I understand it, the DAO website explicitly stated that the code of the contract superseded any written or stated intent. Basically: The code is the law.
Re:Attempt to Reverse a $55 Million Ether Heist by PeterisP on Sunday June 18, 2017 @07:43AM (#14580237)
The actual law is the law, and contract law (and criminal law i.e. regarding fraud) states that the intent does matter. The DAO website doesn't make legislation - the code may specify the rules about which transactions the Ethereum system will approve, but in the real world the actual laws matter and they will determine whether some people will have their stuff taken away, their movement restricted, or be forced to do some transactions in the Ethereum system.
Re:Attempt to Reverse a $55 Million Ether Heist by stale2002 on Sunday June 18, 2017 @02:38PM (#14582117)
Sure, the law cares about intent.

But the question that is to be debated is, was the intention of the DAO too follow the code of the contract EVEN IF it had a bug.

There is an argument to make that, given that "the code is law" was plastered all over the DAO, that being hacked and having all their money stolen, was explicitly allowed.

Re:Attempt to Reverse a $55 Million Ether Heist by bhaak on Sunday June 18, 2017 @05:15AM (#14579770)
I can write anything on a website.

That doesn't mean that it is legally binding.

Re:Attempt to Reverse a $55 Million Ether Heist by moomin on Sunday June 18, 2017 @05:54AM (#14579883)
The behaviour of the founders would almost certainly mean the phrase was interpreted as advertising rather than a legal commitment.
Re:Attempt to Reverse a $55 Million Ether Heist by jessaustin on Sunday June 18, 2017 @02:51PM (#14582183)
Advertisers are occasionally held to some sort of legal commitment with respect to statements made in their ads. The "hackers" in this case might claim they wouldn't have invested their money if they hadn't believed the ad...
Re:Attempt to Reverse a $55 Million Ether Heist by portent on Sunday June 18, 2017 @06:43AM (#14580044)
The "Computer Fraud and Abuse Act" applies to the US. What if the hacker lives somewhere else? Then that law does not apply to him, and the action was not illegal.
Re:Attempt to Reverse a $55 Million Ether Heist by TheSpiceIsLife on Sunday June 18, 2017 @08:05AM (#14580310)
I would assume all allied countries have similar laws and therefore share extradition treaties.

Even countries that don't have shared extradition treaties don't always ignore criminals within their borders, even if the criminal activity is occurring outside.

Re:Attempt to Reverse a $55 Million Ether Heist by TomMarius on Sunday June 18, 2017 @07:17AM (#14580152)
Are you familiar with the individual known as Kim Dotcom?
Re:Attempt to Reverse a $55 Million Ether Heist by ryanlol on Sunday June 18, 2017 @09:53AM (#14580632)
The guy that the US has been unable to get to for years and who could flee NZ at any time to a friendlier jurisdiction if he so wished? Yeah.
Re:Attempt to Reverse a $55 Million Ether Heist by TomMarius on Sunday June 18, 2017 @10:08AM (#14580688)
I have a feeling that it wasn't exactly problem-free for him.
Re:Attempt to Reverse a $55 Million Ether Heist by ryanlol on Sunday June 18, 2017 @02:23PM (#14582036)
Nothing in life is exactly problem-free. It's just easy to overestimate his troubles, which at this point are almost exclusively financial in nature.