Re:Tesla Autopilot
by deelowe on Saturday June 17, 2017 @01:56AM
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It's pretty obvious what the poster meant. Why doesn't tesla need lidar? Cars aren't humans, so that comparison isn't really helpful.
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Re:Tesla Autopilot
by kinkrtyavimoodh on Saturday June 17, 2017 @02:12AM
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What the poster seems to have meant is that LIDAR is essential hardware. Which is not some universal truth, so it is they who should justify it.
Re:Tesla Autopilot
by DaiPlusPlus on Saturday June 17, 2017 @04:20AM
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Visual cameras can be blinded fairly easily - even high-end cameras - simply point such a camera at the sun and try to make out a cloud in the sky. If Tesla were using true high-dynamic-range cameras (e.g. Oversampled binary imagers) then I would be more confident - but Tesla isn't saying that they are - and if they really were they would definitely boast about it.
LIDAR also does work great in the rain - provided you have multiple LIDAR units (e.g. Ford's snow-proof sensor array: https://qz.com/637509/driverless-cars-have-a-new-way-to-navi... ).
What I like about LIDAR is that it will never give you false-negative data regarding object proximity (i.e. it will never tell you an obstruction in the road is not there) but visual-only cameras can be fooled very easily and definitely can give you false-negatives regarding road obstructions.
It seems inherently less safe to rely on a more homogeneous sensor array: conversely it makes sense to use as many different types of sensor as possible to ensure your design isn't susceptible to being brought down thanks to a weakness in your predominant sensor type.
Re:Tesla Autopilot
by tigershark on Saturday June 17, 2017 @06:47AM
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Lidar is absolutely useless for level 5 autonomy given that doesn't work in "bad" weather. It may be useful for level 4 autonomy but for sure it is not necessary even then.
Source: no car driven around the planet at the moment has any lidar apart for testing purposes.