Coconut oil isn't healthy and it's never been healthy

Re:Coconut oil isn't healthy and it's never been healthy by undersuit on Friday June 16, 2017 @01:05PM (#14570656)

There's been increasing evidence that high cholesterol is a symptom of cardiovascular disease, not the cause.

Editing because lots of people want sources.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4513492/

http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/panel-suggests-stop-warni...

http://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/6/6/e010401

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atherosclerosis#Accelerated_gr...

This is a group I was unaware of until providing you links: http://www.thincs.org/index.php

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Re:Coconut oil isn't healthy and it's never been healthy by rarlsatan on Friday June 16, 2017 @01:10PM (#14570716)

There's not much of a correlation. I think only half of the cases of cardiovascular disease have elevated LDL cholesterol. It's always more complicated than simply having elevated cholesterol; it's overall diet, exercise, and plain old genetics that have the largest effect.

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Re:Coconut oil isn't healthy and it's never been healthy by undersuit on Friday June 16, 2017 @01:53PM (#14571160)

Yes, and I'm not advocating that you should inject LDL Cholesterol everyday, just saying the science may have unfairly focused on one variable.

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Re:Coconut oil isn't healthy and it's never been healthy by epmaybe on Friday June 16, 2017 @01:30PM (#14570926)

Agreed. Cardiovascular disease is definitely multifactorial, as are most diseases without a known genetic cause. Even those diseases with a clear genetic abnormality, the other factors contribute to the development of said disease.

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Re:Coconut oil isn't healthy and it's never been healthy by Capt-RogerOver on Friday June 16, 2017 @01:11PM (#14570727)

Can you link of that evidence? In form of scientific studies (quality ones)? This is not a general "you can't prove your point, you don't have science". I'm actually interested. I have been looking for hard science in this area and have seen none that would back up your claims.

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Re:Coconut oil isn't healthy and it's never been healthy by 48snickers on Friday June 16, 2017 @01:29PM (#14570916)

I'm interested in this as well.

So far, all I've found is some research that artificially lowering LDL or raising HDL may not show clear correlation to lower heart disease risk- not quite the same thing as saying LDL isn't generally correlated to heart disease risk:

Broad overview:

  https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/cholesterol-conundrum/

Studies references (but not cited) in the article above:

  http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe0801608

  http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1107579

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Re:Coconut oil isn't healthy and it's never been healthy by SAI_Peregrinus on Friday June 16, 2017 @02:12PM (#14571346)

http://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2017/05/18/now...

The linked paper goes into more detail, of course. And this is only one drug, but there are quite a few other failures of similar type, though less dramatic, discussed in the "Cardiovascular Disease" section of his blog. He always links the original papers, but they're often paywalled or highly technical.

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Re:Coconut oil isn't healthy and it's never been healthy by epmaybe on Friday June 16, 2017 @01:09PM (#14570702)

Can you source that? I'm having trouble finding much in the way of that claim.

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