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Re:Apple Stealing All FaceTime Information, AT&T Locks Users... by madair on Wednesday June 23, 2010 @04:46PM (#1456263)
once a person connects to another person on FaceTime it for some reason non of us in the office can figure out, sends us APPLE a message and says those two people are connecting via Facetime and gives out their location to us. So for whatever reason we need that information just blows my mind. As a consumer why would you need to let Apple know that you are connecting with a person via FaceTime, its non of Apple’s business.

That seems pretty bad.

Re:Apple Stealing All FaceTime Information, AT&T Locks Users... by astrange on Wednesday June 23, 2010 @04:57PM (#1456307)
> That seems pretty bad.

It's required so you can map phone numbers to the other person's IP address. I assume it's also used for STUN (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STUN).

(This is just me guessing, of course, but the "don't automatically assume a huge conspiracy theory" method almost always ends up with me being right, so there.)

Re:Apple Stealing All FaceTime Information, AT&T Locks Users... by madair on Wednesday June 23, 2010 @11:54PM (#1457274)
I wasn't thinking so much conspiracy theory...just marketing overreach, I didn't think there's possibly a technical explanation that holds water, interesting.
Re:Apple Stealing All FaceTime Information, AT&T Locks Users... by jsz0 on Wednesday June 23, 2010 @05:08PM (#1456340)
Incrementally connecting to random IPV4 addresses has been shown to be a really awkward way of setting up a peer to peer connection. When you try it with IPV6 people have the tendency to get born, live 70 or 80 years, and die before their FaceTime call gets connected.
Re:Apple Stealing All FaceTime Information, AT&T Locks Users... by tptacek on Wednesday June 23, 2010 @04:47PM (#1456267)
Why? Every time I log into AIM I tell AOL where I am too.
Re:Apple Stealing All FaceTime Information, AT&T Locks Users... by madair on Wednesday June 23, 2010 @11:58PM (#1457279)
Yeah, and a phone call is analogous. I'd retract my comment, but it's too late.
Re:Apple Stealing All FaceTime Information, AT&T Locks Users... by cooldude127 on Wednesday June 23, 2010 @04:47PM (#1456268)
Location information could be used to connect people to a server that gives them a better connection. Not necessarily an evil thing.
Re:Apple Stealing All FaceTime Information, AT&T Locks Users... by cheald on Wednesday June 23, 2010 @05:09PM (#1456349)
That information can be had passively via a GeoIP-like service, though, since it's only usable on a wifi (and thus, tethered to some hard line) connection. Sending GPS coordinates seems rather unnecessary.