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Re:GitHub founder tells you how to bootstrap a business by barmstrong on Wednesday June 23, 2010 @02:21PM (#1455717)
Has anyone on HN had Adwords convert for their business yet (in real measurable ROI)?

The best I've seen so far was like a 2 year payback period. Not very good. It's gotten competitive enough that I'm rarely seeing Adwords be useful anymore to a startup.

Re:GitHub founder tells you how to bootstrap a business by MicahWedemeyer on Wednesday June 23, 2010 @03:54PM (#1456102)
We've had a little success. It's fairly easy to track the conversion rate from AdWords campaigns if you're also using Google Analytics.

Our ads convert to signups at about a 10% rate. At $0.16 CPC, that means we pay $1.60 for each signup via Adwords. That's still too low for us to get a reasonable return.

I've tried various things in order to bring up the conversion rate, since I think 10% is low, but this is an area where I'm lost. I've tried making a landing page, A/B testing the landing page, and some other tricks, but I'm out of my area of expertise here. That's what I meant when I said that doing ads is pretty damn hard.

But if I could just hit 20% conversion and stay there...then we'd be golden!

Re:GitHub founder tells you how to bootstrap a business by ryanwaggoner on Wednesday June 23, 2010 @10:09PM (#1457108)
Dude, a 10% conversion rate is pretty damn good. What startup are you talking about? I'm guessing that a signup != paying customer, correct? I think ads for free users is a very tough model. Now ads for software you're selling? That's definitely not impossible (ask patio11).
Re:GitHub founder tells you how to bootstrap a business by MicahWedemeyer on Thursday June 24, 2010 @08:23AM (#1457862)
We have a freemium model, and yes I'm saying 10% conversion to the free plan. From there we try and convert them to premium.
Re:GitHub founder tells you how to bootstrap a business by mkramlich on Wednesday June 23, 2010 @02:48PM (#1455853)
A personal experience of mine:

game A: spent $100's on Google ads ... made $0 revenue

game B: spent $0 on Google ads ... made $100's revenue

(disclaimer about other variables, YMMV, take with grain of salt, etc.)