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Re:Canada's Tech Firms Capitalize On Immigration Anxiety by alphonsegaston on Monday June 12, 2017 @03:58PM (#14540556)
While I agree with this sentiment overall, what pay differential can compensate for a more general stability? It would be great if someone could get a high-paying job and not worry about being bankrupted by an unforeseen medical disaster, but that's not the case in the US.

And by the same token, almost no amount of pay (within the tech spectrum) could convince me to live in the cities in Texas where right-wing extremists are rallying outside mosques with assault rifles.

Re:Canada's Tech Firms Capitalize On Immigration Anxiety by dang on Monday June 12, 2017 @06:06PM (#14541510)
We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14540417 and marked it off-topic.
Re:Canada's Tech Firms Capitalize On Immigration Anxiety by linkregister on Monday June 12, 2017 @04:07PM (#14540623)
> being bankrupted by an unforeseen medical disaster

For maybe most of the U.S. population, this is a risk, but most tech companies have health plans that cover this.

> And by the same token, almost no amount of pay (within the tech spectrum) could convince me to live in the cities in Texas where right-wing extremists are rallying outside mosques with [semi-automatic] rifles.

I don't think it's representative of most of Texas or the rest of the country. I get that you're using rhetoric, but there is also anti-Muslim violence in Canada, Australia, UK, Germany, etc.

Re:Canada's Tech Firms Capitalize On Immigration Anxiety by coredog64 on Monday June 12, 2017 @04:49PM (#14541003)
> It would be great if someone could get a high-paying job and not worry about being bankrupted by an unforeseen medical disaster

Serious question. How does the following situation work in Canada?

You make a bunch of money and so you buy a house and car appropriate for your salary. You then get cancer (or your arm falls off, or whatever) and you lose your job. Who makes that house and car payment for you?

Re:Canada's Tech Firms Capitalize On Immigration Anxiety by abawany on Monday June 12, 2017 @05:48PM (#14541405)
As I read it, the point being made is that healthcare costs are so out of whack in the US that they have to potential to bankrupt you manifold without insurance. If you have no savings, then certainly the question of who pays the mortgage is valid. However, healthcare is a good social net in Canada so when you get this arm-falling-off-cancer, you use your savings to pay for the house as long as you can and hope the healthcare safety net maximizes your life.
Re:Canada's Tech Firms Capitalize On Immigration Anxiety by kmicklas on Monday June 12, 2017 @04:02PM (#14540582)
> It would be great if someone could get a high-paying job and not worry about being bankrupted by an unforeseen medical disaster, but that's not the case in the US.

I agree with this sentiment but if you have a high-paying tech job then you probably get insurance which won't bankrupt you in the case of a medical disaster. It's the ~90% of the rest of the population who has to worry.

Re:Canada's Tech Firms Capitalize On Immigration Anxiety by alphonsegaston on Monday June 12, 2017 @04:08PM (#14540630)
I mean...maybe? I know of few American companies that aren't going to find away to get rid of you if you're out of work for an extended period of time because of a serious illness or accident. Labor rights are pretty poorly enforced in the US, and when they are, it's often dependent on you being able to mount and survive a costly legal challenge. People tell themselves they'll be ok, but it seems more like a gamble/survivorship bias to me.
Re:Canada's Tech Firms Capitalize On Immigration Anxiety by kmicklas on Monday June 12, 2017 @04:13PM (#14540690)
True, if you lose your job and can't get on disability you're pretty screwed.
Re:Canada's Tech Firms Capitalize On Immigration Anxiety by simlevesque on Monday June 12, 2017 @04:12PM (#14540675)
> get insurance which won't bankrupt you in the case of a medical disaster

As I understand it (I live in Canada), you can subscribe to an insurance policy and they can refuse to give you the money for one reason or another.

Re:Canada's Tech Firms Capitalize On Immigration Anxiety by inputcoffee on Monday June 12, 2017 @05:09PM (#14541140)
Not sure why you are getting down voted but I was thinking along the lines of the healthcare point.

It is a Nassim Taleb type of point: you're basically making extra money writing healthcare puts, but when there is a crash, you get wiped out.

Re:Canada's Tech Firms Capitalize On Immigration Anxiety by someSven on Monday June 12, 2017 @09:41PM (#14542393)
If the Canadian system works like the German one than you can come back to the public system even when you are already ill. At least if you've been insured before for a while and you are not to old. If you are broke then it works even then. Sorry, if that might drive some people nuts now.