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Re:Vegetarian Diets May Be More Effective for Weight Loss Th... by serg_chernata on Monday June 12, 2017 @02:37PM (#14539758)
Gonna need a source on that.
Re:Vegetarian Diets May Be More Effective for Weight Loss Th... by zzalpha on Monday June 12, 2017 @02:42PM (#14539806)
I somehow doubt you'll get one. A quick Google search suggests they exist, but they're hardly a large portion of the overall bodybuilding community.
Re:Vegetarian Diets May Be More Effective for Weight Loss Th... by serg_chernata on Monday June 12, 2017 @02:48PM (#14539877)
Oh I know, I just wanted him to answer that. :)
Re:Vegetarian Diets May Be More Effective for Weight Loss Th... by coldtea on Monday June 12, 2017 @03:02PM (#14540021)
Why though? He didn't say that "Given that ALL/MOST top body builders are vegans", but that "Given that top body builders are vegans".

And indeed there are some. Which points that there's no necessary connection between being vegan and losing muscle.

Re:Vegetarian Diets May Be More Effective for Weight Loss Th... by kbutler on Monday June 12, 2017 @03:49PM (#14540464)
He also didn't say "Given that SOME top body builders are vegans".

Top body builders eat meat. Top body builders do not eat meat.

The implication is "The top body builders", but yes, there's wiggle room for when someone challenges the statement.

Re:Vegetarian Diets May Be More Effective for Weight Loss Th... by Mz on Monday June 12, 2017 @03:03PM (#14540037)
It would be seriously cool, though, if anyone here could leave a link as a citation to any article, tweet, FB page, whatevs that shows even one top body builder who is vegan as back up for the claim.
Re:Vegetarian Diets May Be More Effective for Weight Loss Th... by coldtea on Monday June 12, 2017 @03:13PM (#14540126)
Because Google is too difficult? (note to self: cut down snark)...

http://www.greatveganathletes.com/bodybuilders

http://pulptastic.com/beef-up-without-beef/

Re:Vegetarian Diets May Be More Effective for Weight Loss Th... by Mz on Monday June 12, 2017 @03:17PM (#14540161)
Google is a thing?

(note to self: quit trying to crack jokes on HN)

;-)

Re:Vegetarian Diets May Be More Effective for Weight Loss Th... by tdist on Monday June 12, 2017 @03:07PM (#14540065)
Here are some [1]. These are however not selected to be 'top' athletes, as far as I know.

I imagine that diet is irrelevant for athletic training, as long as it fulfills certain macro-nutrient requisites. Further, I image vegan athletes are only faced with the increased difficulty of finding and preparing quality sufficient food, compared to others with normative diets, due to lack of demand and meat centered cultures.

Finding an equivalent vegan alternative to chocolate pudding at <500g, 350kcal, 50g protein> for $2.5 [2] seems like a challenge. I'm sure that if they plan their diet, they can meet the same targets - whereas normative diets don't require you to plan anything really. You can just eat 2 of [2] and a chicken a day, and you're done (concerning only protein).

But then again, there are protein powders which balances it out, if we don't take price into account.

All in all, I think diet choices (assuming any choice to be a most healthy variant of chosen diet) mainly impacts long term health, and not short term goals such as muscle gains.

[1] http://www.greatveganathletes.com/strength [2] http://www.njie.se/produkt/propud-protein-pudding-chocolate/...

Re:Vegetarian Diets May Be More Effective for Weight Loss Th... by gxs on Monday June 12, 2017 @02:47PM (#14539858)
Seriously, no need to be so sensationalist.

All comment had to say is some top body builders are vegan. Even some notable NFL players are/have been vegan.

Even then, they go out of their way to get enough protein - I think the person you replied to was trying to go for shock value but it was a pretty bad comment.