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Re:Apple Is Trying to Make iMessages More Private by michalu on Sunday June 11, 2017 @12:07PM (#14532476)
What about Telegram? Is there a reason you haven't listed it? I find it better that WhatsApp.
Re:Apple Is Trying to Make iMessages More Private by transitorykris on Sunday June 11, 2017 @12:13PM (#14532504)
Telegram can be confusing for users. Encryption needs to be turned on, and isn't available in group chats.

https://www.ieee-security.org/TC/SP2017/papers/84.pdf Is super interesting when thinking about secure messaging from the perspective of ordinary folk.

Re:Apple Is Trying to Make iMessages More Private by CiPHPerCoder on Sunday June 11, 2017 @12:20PM (#14532532)
Re:Apple Is Trying to Make iMessages More Private by zanny on Sunday June 11, 2017 @12:12PM (#14532494)
Since they use their own in house crypto, most people don't consider it trustworthy:

https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/49782/is-telegr...