Re:The contest between gravity and quantum physics takes a n...
by trhway on Thursday June 08, 2017 @06:01PM
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in the model where inertia is a result of interacting with all the other gravitational fields empty Universe would mean no inertia and thus no centripetal force. (of course there is another model - that of Higgs boson - for which i haven't so far been able to find how it explains equivalence of inertial and gravitational masses and thus it is so far non-starter for me, i mean not the boson itself - that of course exists, i mean the boson's role in inertial mass story until of course the boson happesn to be the main carrier of the "gravitational charge" then all would fall nicely in place)
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Re:The contest between gravity and quantum physics takes a n...
by ars on Thursday June 08, 2017 @08:32PM
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> would mean no inertia and thus no centripetal force
Wouldn't that allow infinite acceleration?
Without inertia, if two objects collide elastically - what controls the final speeds?
I don't think you can just get rid of inertia in a thought experiment and expect results that correlate with the real world.
Re:The contest between gravity and quantum physics takes a n...
by cobbzilla on Thursday June 08, 2017 @06:08PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but without the Higgs boson and its corresponding scalar field, the concept of mass/inertia does not exist. Without mass, can matter still exist? How would this "matter without mass" behave? My mind is close to exploding.
Re:The contest between gravity and quantum physics takes a n...
by trhway on Thursday June 08, 2017 @06:20PM
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imagine that there is only gravitational force in the Universe and the matter has only gravitational mass("charge"). Accelerating any given piece of matter with respect to all the other matter would cause propagation of change (ie. wave) in the gravitational field of the whole system (Universe). Wave is energy and to generate wave a work is required, ie. a force has to be applied to the piece of matter being accelerated - the requirement for that force is what we call inertia.
Now of course the question - what is the carrier of that "gravitational charge". It would be great if Higgs boson was the carrier of that charge.
Re:The contest between gravity and quantum physics takes a n...
by cobbzilla on Friday June 09, 2017 @01:51AM
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I thought the idea that "the Higgs boson is the field responsible for imparting mass" was the dominant theory, are there reasonable alternative explanations?
Re:The contest between gravity and quantum physics takes a n...
by AnimalMuppet on Friday June 09, 2017 @12:03PM
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I don't think that's right. I think the Higgs creates a large amount of mass (90%-ish), but not 100% of it. (This is from memory of something I read, so I can't point you to a source...)