Re:Apple is struggling to become an AI powerhouse
by baddox on Thursday June 08, 2017 @03:26PM
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If you have knowledge and control over who gets your information and how they use, well that's effectively the definition of good privacy.
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Re:Apple is struggling to become an AI powerhouse
by abritinthebay on Thursday June 08, 2017 @03:50PM
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But you don't. You have only control over the former. History has shown us time and time again you don't have control over the latter.
Re:Apple is struggling to become an AI powerhouse
by baddox on Thursday June 08, 2017 @04:12PM
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I agree. My point is that it doesn't make sense to say "I'm not really concerned with privacy issues, I give lots of personal data to several services and it improves my life." Because that's effectively saying "I'm not concerned with privacy issues as long as my privacy is really good."
Re:Apple is struggling to become an AI powerhouse
by CaptSpify on Thursday June 08, 2017 @03:56PM
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How do you have control over the former?
Data is being gleamed about you even if you aren't using their products, and it's being used by companies you haven't authorized all the time.
Re:Apple is struggling to become an AI powerhouse
by derialstrazus on Thursday June 08, 2017 @04:32PM
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Our legal structure needs to catch up and punish companies who use data that we did not authorize. Data should be seen as personal property.
Re:Apple is struggling to become an AI powerhouse
by Spooky23 on Thursday June 08, 2017 @10:30PM
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That will never meaningfully happen, because it is contrary to third party doctrine and would make it impossible to do business with people.
If you tell me that you like bananas, and I bring you bananas, I'm not being unethical. The problem with online services is that you're baring your soul to the eye of sauron without realizing what it means. The only way to win is not to play.
Re:Apple is struggling to become an AI powerhouse
by Joeri on Friday June 09, 2017 @12:45AM
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You may want to look into the EU GDPR, which requires all companies to strictly manage all personal information, or face a penalty of up to 5% of worldwide turnover.
This is set to activate in a year, and it is a huge problem for software used in the EU because almost nobody is ready for it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regu...
Re:Apple is struggling to become an AI powerhouse
by abritinthebay on Thursday June 08, 2017 @04:56PM
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I didn't say complete control. That's... well... not actually possible (ever, since time began really, if someone can see you they can track data about you).
But you can have reasonable control of it and you can't with the latter.