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Re:Americans from Both Political Parties Overwhelmingly Supp... by croon on Thursday June 08, 2017 @07:36AM (#14513378)
> For example, I don't see how Netflix paying Comcast to zero-rate Netflix traffic is fundamentally different from Amazon contracting with mail carriers to subsidize the cost of shipping for Amazon purchases

Two things:

1) Net neutrality is about not slowing down transit of all other packages (that don't get paid extra for)

2) Your comparison is flawed. Comcast isn't the mail carrier, Comcast is the (only) road. If Amazon makes a deal with a CDN (if they didn't have their own) or any other middle-man service on the net, that isn't an issue, nor related to net neutrality at all.

Re:Americans from Both Political Parties Overwhelmingly Supp... by paulddraper on Friday June 09, 2017 @11:30AM (#14522088)
(1) Sure. Pay more for mail and it goes faster. Amazon helps gets that increase in speed subsidized.

(2) Generally incorrect.

Re:Americans from Both Political Parties Overwhelmingly Supp... by croon on Friday June 09, 2017 @03:19PM (#14523696)
1) First off, the comparison like I said is flawed, but just to play ball: Other peoples mail doesn't get slowed by you paying for premium shipping.

2) Do you care to expand on that with reasoning or logic?

Re:Americans from Both Political Parties Overwhelmingly Supp... by paulddraper on Friday June 09, 2017 @04:43PM (#14524385)
(1) They most certainly are slowed down. Mail services have limited bandwidth (e.g. Christmas), and higher priority package can and do displace low priority ones.

(2) Usually ISPs don't have a monopoly.

Re:Americans from Both Political Parties Overwhelmingly Supp... by croon on Saturday June 10, 2017 @09:38AM (#14527262)
1) Which is either where the comparison gets accurate to bandwidth without net neutrality, or breaks as a comparison with net neutrality, because then it's FIFO regardless of which service/delivery network.

2) When you say usually, do you mean globally or in the US where we're discussing net neutrality? Because there most certainly usually is a local monopoly.

Re:Americans from Both Political Parties Overwhelmingly Supp... by paulddraper on Saturday June 10, 2017 @11:07AM (#14527597)
There most certainly is not.

100% of all developed US census blocks have at least two broadband providers.

https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-344499A1.p...

Re:Americans from Both Political Parties Overwhelmingly Supp... by croon on Saturday June 10, 2017 @03:50PM (#14528880)
> There most certainly is not.

> 100% of all developed US census blocks have at least two broadband providers.

That's false going by your own source. Broadband requires 25Mbps/3Mbps [1] (even if I personally think even that's low), and 58% percent of developed census blocks lack choice there, of which 21% can't even get it.

The truth remains that if you want broadband, you're in a majority of cases locked to a local monopoly. This is what net neutrality fixes. Until local monopolies can be dealt with at least.

[1] https://www.fcc.gov/reports-research/reports/broadband-progr...

Re:Americans from Both Political Parties Overwhelmingly Supp... by paulddraper on Saturday June 10, 2017 @10:02PM (#14530243)
Hm, looks like the definition of high speed internet changed in 2015. (Since we need all that bandwidth to download crap ads.)

In any case, most census districts with high-speed internet have multiple providers.

Re:Americans from Both Political Parties Overwhelmingly Supp... by croon on Saturday June 10, 2017 @10:12PM (#14530263)
> In any case, most census districts with high-speed internet have multiple providers.

Nice cherry picking. So screw those other 37% that live under ISP monopolies?

Are you still denying that local monopolies is a real problem?

Re:Americans from Both Political Parties Overwhelmingly Supp... by ryanwaggoner on Sunday June 11, 2017 @08:24PM (#14534555)
They should have updated the speeds considered "broadband" but by definition, you'll always have a portion of the population lagging behind any standard that's defined as "what 80% of the population had access to"
Re:Americans from Both Political Parties Overwhelmingly Supp... by croon on Monday June 12, 2017 @10:14AM (#14537527)
Avoided the question.