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Re:Uber Fires More Than 20 Employees in Harassment Probe by ramshanker on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @01:58PM (#14499420)
Does it make having "Uber" in your Career Profile look bad now?

Even if someone wants to genuinely switch job within next few month out of Uber, It would raise eyebrows at next interview table. So Uber gonna have very mall attrition rate now. Every action has both side of coin. :)

Re:Uber Fires More Than 20 Employees in Harassment Probe by zorpner on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @02:03PM (#14499490)
Depending on where you are, it already has been. I recruited a friend recently who worked for Uber two jobs ago, and got objections at multiple levels (pulled them through because I knew they left Uber originally due to ethical objections and could speak to that directly). At this point having it in your job history needs to be addressed in your e-mail/cover letter.
Re:Uber Fires More Than 20 Employees in Harassment Probe by dopamean on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @05:22PM (#14501468)
Honestly, that sounds a little ridiculous and I wouldn't want to interview at the company you work for.
Re:Uber Fires More Than 20 Employees in Harassment Probe by samstave on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @02:52PM (#14500010)
What about a zenifits job?

They had to BAN sex in the stairwells and drinking on the job

Re:Uber Fires More Than 20 Employees in Harassment Probe by J5892 on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @07:05PM (#14502255)
Or UploadVR!

I read several reports of their "kink room", but I never did read any reports that they actually got rid of the "kink room".

Re:Uber Fires More Than 20 Employees in Harassment Probe by zorpner on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @05:24PM (#14501490)
Having a problem and addressing it is different than having a problem and not addressing it for years (and yeah, I might ask an ex-Zenefits prospect how they felt about that). Is that unclear or difficult to understand?
Re:Uber Fires More Than 20 Employees in Harassment Probe by samstave on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @05:35PM (#14501582)
I think you read tone into my comment where there was none. Mine was a valid question; "in your opinion, iss Zenifits also seen poorly on a resume, given the fact that it is known that the CEO had to step down and they had to take measures to ban sex and drinking in the office, and this is amplified by the fact that they are a freaking HR company" -

- I would think that if anyone is familiar with the Valley, that they would certainly know the Zenifits story and should rightfully-aise eyebrows if they see the positions on a resume...

I wasnt challenging your comment, I wa agreeing with it and adding zenefits to the naughty list.

Re:Uber Fires More Than 20 Employees in Harassment Probe by zorpner on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @05:37PM (#14501596)
Ah, gotcha. My apologies, not always easy to gauge intent!
Re:Uber Fires More Than 20 Employees in Harassment Probe by mlindner on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @03:02PM (#14500123)
What company is that so I know to avoid it? Sounds like you should get out of there.
Re:Uber Fires More Than 20 Employees in Harassment Probe by zorpner on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @05:22PM (#14501460)
Nah. I like working somewhere where ethics are taken seriously.

If you've been working for Uber for the last couple years (in an engineering role, and not visa-restricted), you need to have an answer for why you've remained someplace with so many serious ethical issues. And to be clear, "I needed to pay bills" is a real answer. But you need to have it and be willing to say it and defend it.

Re:Uber Fires More Than 20 Employees in Harassment Probe by ryandrake on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @07:22PM (#14502353)
I don't see how it's productive to put a scarlet letter on someone simply based on where he or she used to work as "third engineer from the left." Maybe one day the place where you currently happen to work will earn some kind of tarnished reputation--should your career suffer because of it? Should you have to quit out of fear of being put on a blacklist, putting your livelihood at risk?
Re:Uber Fires More Than 20 Employees in Harassment Probe by int_19h on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @08:08PM (#14502658)
The crucial part here is the nature of the reputation. We're not talking about some shady dealings of the upper management, that individual employees may or may not have been aware of. We're talking about employee culture inside the company - something that is, by definition, exposed to and shaped by employees. Given the magnitude of the problem in Uber, on the basis of reports we've seen so far, on the balance of probabilities, it would be more surprising than not for an engineer who works there to be unaware that such things are going on around them.

And if they were aware, but didn't blow the whistle (after going through the usual HR complaint process and running into blocks there, as others have reported), that is definitely a very questionable ethical choice that deserves future scrutiny, including for anyone hiring that person.

Re:Uber Fires More Than 20 Employees in Harassment Probe by dllthomas on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @10:22PM (#14503243)
Uber is big and the culture in any given pocket varies quite a bit. It's entirely possible not to have known what was going on 200 employees over.
Re:Uber Fires More Than 20 Employees in Harassment Probe by HelloNurse on Wednesday June 07, 2017 @03:42AM (#14504381)
Are you claiming that good teams with a good culture actually exist at Uber? What's your evidence?
Re:Uber Fires More Than 20 Employees in Harassment Probe by dllthomas on Wednesday June 07, 2017 @05:06AM (#14504716)
I worked on one.
Re:Uber Fires More Than 20 Employees in Harassment Probe by kbart on Wednesday June 07, 2017 @02:50AM (#14504201)
"I like working somewhere where ethics are taken seriously."

Objecting people just because they've worked for a company-turned-toxic without getting into details seems damn unethical to me. That's no better than racial or other profiling ("they all are like this" mentality) imho.

Re:Uber Fires More Than 20 Employees in Harassment Probe by hitekker on Wednesday June 07, 2017 @02:01PM (#14508516)
> I like working somewhere where ethics are taken seriously.

Right on. A person's ethics will be impacted by the culture they willingly chose to remain in. If that culture is thoroughly toxic, i.e. not just confined to different spaces, then it's is necessary to probe deeper into the reasons why they remained.

In my experience, the people who object most strongly to the consideration of complicity, are also the same people, who at one point or another, went quietly or happily along with wrongdoing.

Their indignation can be distilled to: "Why should I, or anyone, be shamed for turning a blind eye to the suffering of fellow human beings?"

Re:Uber Fires More Than 20 Employees in Harassment Probe by NetStrikeForce on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @02:17PM (#14499622)
I'm not sure why you're being downvoted. This is a thing and I know people turning down Uber recruiters because they don't want to be associated with Uber's wrongdoings and questionable morals.
Re:Uber Fires More Than 20 Employees in Harassment Probe by fixermark on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @02:49PM (#14499973)
Turning down Uber recruiters is different from other recruiters turning down ex-Uber candidates. There's no reason a person should be expected to board what they perceive to be a sinking ship.
Re:Uber Fires More Than 20 Employees in Harassment Probe by njj023 on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @02:40PM (#14499874)
You'd have to be one foolish hiring manager to make blanket generalizations on Uber employees like this – and thankfully I haven't seen many instances of that. Most Uber employees that do leave tend to have no issues finding a job at the FANGs of the world. This is easily verifiable on LinkedIn.
Re:Uber Fires More Than 20 Employees in Harassment Probe by mlindner on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @03:01PM (#14500109)
If having Uber in my career profile makes me look bad to a prospective company then I don't want to work at that company. If the company policy I'm applying to is so toxic that they feel the need to purge people for minor things then I would never want to work there.
Re:Uber Fires More Than 20 Employees in Harassment Probe by mandevil on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @03:13PM (#14500241)
Excuse me, sir or madam. You seem to have accidentally included sexual harassment in the category of "minor things." I presume that you are not such an awful human being that you actually believe this, so I would suggest choosing your words more carefully in the future so that people don't accidentally consider you terrible.
Re:Uber Fires More Than 20 Employees in Harassment Probe by pfarnsworth on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @04:04PM (#14500791)
Google had many reported cases of sexual harrassment. Is having Google in your resume a bad thing too?
Re:Uber Fires More Than 20 Employees in Harassment Probe by s73ver on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @05:48PM (#14501698)
Google doesn't have a reputation of ignoring it to the point where they tacitly encourage it, like Uber does.
Re:Uber Fires More Than 20 Employees in Harassment Probe by anghor on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @11:21PM (#14503494)
I'd never hire anyone who had worked for Uber anyway. They're far too loose with the truth/superiority complex. uber = above, as in above the law