Amazon is on the fast track to become a monopoly just like Google, but that's not why they couldn't break into the market. The reason is because their products are sub standard. One of the only reason they have done as well as they have with the fire product line is because it's cheap, and it's only cheap because it's subsidized.

Amazon isn't a monopoly in anything and is not on track to being one either.

There are plenty of online stores and Azure and Google Cloud are doing very well and have excellent growth opportunities.

Their failure to break in to the market was because they didn't make good products, not because Google kept them out because of a monopoly

Actually, this is exactly incorrect. The reason Amazon couldn't include any Google Play Store compatibility in Kindle or Fire products, for example, is because in order to do so, Google illegally requires OEMs to also bundle other apps... like Google Play Books, a direct competitor to Amazon's Kindle. This is a practice called "tying" in antitrust law.

The fact that Google doesn't allow OEMs to pick and choose what apps are included is the subject of an EU antitrust investigation, and Google has already been prohibited from doing so in Russia. It's also illegal under US law, but Google has an incredibly significant amount of money invested in the right US politicians.

Amazon will NOT allow competing products like the Google Home to be sold on Amazon as well as Apple TV and CC yet Google still has the Echo in search. Think you have it wrong and Amazon a problem not Google. I am a big Amazon customer but can still see what it is.

Why do you think Amazon did that? It was in response to Google's behavior. Google refused to allow their products to work with Amazon's products (without the painful concessions I mention here), so Amazon refused to sell them.

It sounds like you've unfortunately only heard a small part of the story.

Side note: Replying with the same incorrect comment three times is truly unnecessary.

Why should google's products must work with Amazon's products?It's not Amazon who sell google's products but google sell its own products via amazon online shopping platform.Does amazon echo have to work with google's product or install google's software or services to appear in search results?

This is pure hyperbole. "Painful concessions," really?

I can't imagine a more painful concession than requiring that Amazon be forced to include a competitor's eBook platform on their device if they want to use an app store. I don't think that's hyperbole at all.

You need to stop posting the same argument everywhere.

It's a stupid one anyway since everyone knows that the only reason Google has been allowed to operate Search the way it does (limited transparency + oversight) is because we know that it doesn't interfere with search results. If they ever did and deliberately removed competitors governments would simply force Search to be an independent company.

False, the reason for Amazon not including Play Store is because they didn't wanted it and they forked Android.

if it was true, why didn't Amazon sue Google?

Because look what happened with Microsoft. You are talking about a multi decade long process that will go to trial. This sort of thing distracts companies and often ends up killing them.

I don't know about the merits here but I can understand why Amazon would rather leave it up to governments.

what happened with Microsoft? i know what happened with Oracle when they sued Google about java in android. nothing. except they lost because they were wrong.

Except for that other company everyone loves to worship and has 40%+ market share in USA.

I realize that you would rather have Amazon continue making phones with their second rate services and outdated app store with abandoned apps, but Amazon doesn't want to continue losing money just to satiate your dislike of Google.

>This continues to emphasize that the only solution to Google is government intervention. If Amazon can't successfully break into the market, nobody can.

Why do your monopolistic complaints always have to do with Google? Where are your monopolistic complaints about Amazon or Microsoft in your post history?

Nah. Amazon is the same "evil" as google. This would not make any difference.

When the people get tired of apps and crappy software we will see a new re-packaged ideas executed better. But yeah it is incredibly hard to compete with good enough products.

What market are you talking about specifically?

Mobile apps and services. Or an OS. Essentially, Amazon throwing in the towel on pushing their own Appstore indicates confirmation that, in fact, nobody can compete with the Play Store. And since the Play Store is illegally tied to a couple dozens apps as part of Google's Mobile Applications Distribution Agreement, it's a monopoly that extends far beyond just an app store.

Actually, that bears an interesting question: If Amazon actually were to release such a phone, unless Google makes them a special exception in the standard MADA, Amazon would have to agree to either switch Kindle Fires away from Android or start putting Google Play (including very direct competitor apps like Google Play Books) on Kindle.

Google forbids any developer who has access to the Play Store from selling any so-called "incompatible forks" of Android.

Amazon will NOT allow competing products like the Google Home to be sold on Amazon as well as Apple TV and CC yet Google still has the Echo in search. Think you have it wrong and Amazon a problem not Google. I am a big Amazon customer but can still see what it is.

What? Amazon will NOT allow competing products like the Google Home or CC or Apple TV to be sold on Amazon yet Google has not removed the Echo or Amazon from search. Think you mixed up where the issue is at.

Few people seem to remember that Google didn't create Android -- they bought it. I'm not saying they could never have created it from scratch themselves, but there is something to be said about the innovation capabilities of a Goliath like Amazon or Google.

Yes Google purchased and has not done anything with it or invested into improving.

Few people seem to remember that Apple didn't create iOS or OSX from scratch. They bought it when they purchased NeXT.