Of course not, nor did I claim that. However, driving at highway speeds contributes the other part and these figures are pulled straight from Nissan's own web page. (The exact figures are: driving at highway averaging 88 km/h with outside temperature 30 degrees Celsius and using AC – cabin temp is not told – would give you a range of 152 km. Rated at 250 km NEDC.)

Driving at highway speeds obviously isn't a big part of NEDC rating for EVs.

I think Nissan's being a bit conservative there. But I deliberately avoided the Leaf because it's such a first gen car.

The Leaf is much worse off than the Bolt or even a 500e when it comes to this. My bolt, I've worked out it is about a 7% range loss using A/C on those hot MtV 280 commutes.

I've driven to Watsonville then back to SF in one day and been comfortably in my range in a Bolt. So... it's getting good very fast. I really do like my car.

That's why nobody claims NEDC rating is useful for highway trips. You first replied to gsnedders, and I don't think he was talking about a NEDC rating, he appeared to be talking about an actual range.

Maybe. I don't know. NEDC rating is what you can sort of get in slow city driving, and city driving is what a car with that sort of range is made for.

We were talking about cars with 200km-300km of actual range... the whole point of the discussion is that newer electric cars have significantly improved range compared to the previous generation.