Re:The Rise and Fall of Yik Yak
by SimbaOnSteroids on Saturday May 27, 2017 @11:32AM
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A major issue I had with yik yak was that it really didn't work if you were going to a commuter school or lived in the suburbs then the local list was dead.
It should have a way to set your location by physically being there X hours a week. Then you could take part in a community even if you sleep somewhere else, but you'd still need to show up to be "in".
Re:The Rise and Fall of Yik Yak
by SimbaOnSteroids on Saturday May 27, 2017 @01:24PM
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Or have a total population metric, some communities are more spread out. So the heard would be people within x radius or increase radius x until population is met.
Re:The Rise and Fall of Yik Yak
by WikipediasBad on Saturday May 27, 2017 @06:09PM
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At some point that's just going to become a subreddit with a very, very loose sense of geography built into it that's more of a hindrance than an asset. For this type of thing, you either go all in like yik yak did with the geo or you go all in with the idea of the community and non-geo (reddit).
I agree. Their app became popular as a place for uncensored, anonymous speech. When they started censoring and requiring usernames their customers spitefully deleted the app.
There are so few places left in the US where someone can engage in free speech. Free speech is nearly nonexistent on college campuses. Yik Yak was offering a product users couldn't find anywhere else. But they threw it all away.
You can engage in free speech wherever you want. But others are also allowed to engage in their free speech as well, which they can use to choose to rebuke you, and choose not to associate with you.
And free speech is not dead on college campuses. Speech without consequences is dead, and that's probably a good thing.
Re:The Rise and Fall of Yik Yak
by oculusthrift on Saturday May 27, 2017 @11:13PM
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i think everyone is just trying to fit it to their narrative of harassment or free speech when in reality it just wasn't that compelling of a product after a while. At my school it devolved into horny guys trying to get laid and shit talking about professors.
I'm not even sure if this was a response to harassment, at the time it almost seemed like a pivot for the company - To become the next Snapchat or Facebook, sell targeted ads, and become what every other social company does. This was not what users wanted. It was the only place where people could truly make their thoughts heard without fearing social backlash, which is an issue of incredible importance for University students. And being able to talk with people of a similar age from your University was the perfect gauge for all those things you might want to say but can't. And the handles feature completely removed that. It became extremely easy to tie a person to a handle (Simply watch them while they've got the app open!). There was clear and immediate backlash and people started uninstalling the app en-masse, even posting on the platform about why they were doing so. Yik Yak reversed the update but the damage had already been done - People didn't trust the company to make the right decision any more, and the majority of users never reinstalled.
Note that I'm not saying harassment was good and that the company should have just thrown their hands up in the air and done nothing - The change marking offensive language was welcome, and responding to geo-fence requests in problem areas was fine. But the article fails to mention that the community moderation is incredibly effective. Stupid and offensive yaks were removed quickly through the power of the community - It only took 5 people to say "I don't like this" and you could remove a post.
Perhaps where I was (A small university in the north east of England), we didn't feel any real harassment. People posted racist and homophobic things occasionally, but these posts were quickly removed. Changes to the apps main functionality and appeal came overnight and surprised many people. They now hated the app, aimed at removing a problem that simply didn't exist in the community.
RIP Yik Yak. I'll miss you.