Re:Scientists Tie 52 Genes to Human Intelligence
by arethuza on Tuesday May 23, 2017 @04:14AM
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That sounds like it could be used to argue for environment or genetics!
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Re:Scientists Tie 52 Genes to Human Intelligence
by circlefavshape on Tuesday May 23, 2017 @04:46AM
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Exactly. Families share more than genetics.
I once heard a radio spot where a woman spoke about herself and her sister's illustrious pole-vaulting career. She scoffed at the idea that she had taken up pole-vaulting because her older sister did it, and said "obviously" they both had pole-vaulting genes
Re:Scientists Tie 52 Genes to Human Intelligence
by truthaway12345 on Tuesday May 23, 2017 @12:29PM
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I wasn't aware anyone doubted that there are genes that convey athletic abilities
Re:Scientists Tie 52 Genes to Human Intelligence
by psyc on Tuesday May 23, 2017 @08:08AM
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What aspect of the environment was shared across 3 generations of uncles and cousins, geographically separated, many of whom didn't even know each other?
Re:Scientists Tie 52 Genes to Human Intelligence
by cmiles74 on Tuesday May 23, 2017 @09:24AM
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I bet there are many that we take for granted. My first thought was social class; that's environmental and it's possible they all had this in common.
Re:Scientists Tie 52 Genes to Human Intelligence
by truthaway12345 on Tuesday May 23, 2017 @12:24PM
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Well can you make any sort of case for a causal arrow to support your dismissal? Because there is a case for a causal arrow in your dismissal target, given the article we're commenting on. The bar has been raised for "we said, they said" so you'll have to try a bit harder than assertively blaming environment.
Re:Scientists Tie 52 Genes to Human Intelligence
by cmiles74 on Tuesday May 23, 2017 @01:36PM
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The poster wondered what environmental factors these family members may have shared, social class is definitely one such factor.
Are you arguing that may not be the case? I think you would need more information about the poster's family to make that assertion.
Re:Scientists Tie 52 Genes to Human Intelligence
by truthaway54321 on Tuesday May 23, 2017 @01:51PM
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No, I'm saying that there is a demonstrated causal arrow from genes to intelligence. The evidence is less clear on the causality of social class and intelligence, however, so simply asserting it as a causative factor is not an effective rebuttal.